Republican Governor demonstrates those who push "Natural Herd Immunity" are idiots

[gwb-trading]

Move goalposts much?

We are just fortunate that improved treatments based on science has reduced the death rate (CFR) since July. At this time (July) it was over 5% in the U.S. -- now it is at 2.5%. Several of the most important steps was to stop treating patients with hydroxychloroquine (which provides no benefit and killed many patients), using effective drug and steroid treatments, reducing the use of intubation, positioning the patients correctly, and other proven steps to reduce deaths.

Even with these improvements -- the projected number of deaths in the U.S. is expected to be 400,000 near the end of the year. Thanks to the improved treatments reducing the CFR by half since July --- the number of projected deaths is no longer 800,000 but a mere 400,000. This number is still not very good.

 

[CaptainObvious]

We are just fortunate that improved treatments based on science has reduced the death rate (CFR) since July. At this time (July) it was over 5% in the U.S. -- now it is at 2.5%. Several of the most important steps was to stop treating patients with hydroxychloroquine (which provides no benefit and killed many patients), using effective drug and steroid treatments, reducing the use of intubation, positioning the patients correctly, and other proven steps to reduce deaths.

Even with these improvements -- the projected number of deaths in the U.S. is expected to be 400,000 near the end of the year. Thanks to the improved treatments reducing the CFR by half since July --- the number of projected deaths is no longer 800,000 but a mere 400,000. This number is still not very good.

Won't make 400,000 either. We're 8 months in with roughly 236K dead. We get something like 325 by years end, maybe 350 tops. These particular numbers are moot to my argument.
The problem I have is that serious policy decisions have been made, all of them based on projections which have been widely exaggerated. First it was millions, then 800,000, now 400,000, and that's still exaggerated. You just can't expect people to take the bogeyman seriously when the threat being claimed is so over the top.
Wear a mask, do some social distancing, limit your exposure where you can. That's it, it goes how it goes. No need to crash the economy over this, no need at all.

 

[Cuddles]

Won't make 400,000 either. We're 8 months in with roughly 236K dead. We get something like 325 by years end, maybe 350 tops. These particular numbers are moot to my argument.
The problem I have is that serious policy decisions have been made, all of them based on projections which have been widely exaggerated. First it was millions, then 800,000, now 400,000, and that's still exaggerated. You just can't expect people to take the bogeyman seriously when the threat being claimed is so over the top.
Wear a mask, do some social distancing, limit your exposure where you can. That's it, it goes how it goes. No need to crash the economy over this, no need at all.

You've been proven wrong so many times yet remain stubborn in your wrongness

 

[TRS]

Won't make 400,000 either. We're 8 months in with roughly 236K dead. We get something like 325 by years end, maybe 350 tops. These particular numbers are moot to my argument.
The problem I have is that serious policy decisions have been made, all of them based on projections which have been widely exaggerated. First it was millions, then 800,000, now 400,000, and that's still exaggerated. You just can't expect people to take the bogeyman seriously when the threat being claimed is so over the top.
Wear a mask, do some social distancing, limit your exposure where you can. That's it, it goes how it goes. No need to crash the economy over this, no need at all.

You contradict yourself

 

[gwb-trading]

Won't make 400,000 either. We're 8 months in with roughly 236K dead. We get something like 325 by years end, maybe 350 tops. These particular numbers are moot to my argument.
The problem I have is that serious policy decisions have been made, all of them based on projections which have been widely exaggerated. First it was millions, then 800,000, now 400,000, and that's still exaggerated. You just can't expect people to take the bogeyman seriously when the threat being claimed is so over the top.
Wear a mask, do some social distancing, limit your exposure where you can. That's it, it goes how it goes. No need to crash the economy over this, no need at all.

Keep in mind that the current prediction from the University of Washington is 400,000 by mid-January. Formerly this number would have been reached on Feb 1st.

I will note that cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the U.S. are rapidly accelerating. In several locations hospitals have already reached peak capacity and they have to ship patients to other states.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Keep in mind that the current prediction from the University of Washington is 400,000 by mid-January. Formerly this number would have been reached on Feb 1st.

I will note that cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the U.S. are rapidly accelerating. In several locations hospitals have already reached peak capacity and they have to ship patients to other states.

Where do you get that deaths in the US are "rapidly accelerating"?

 

[gwb-trading]

Where do you get that deaths in the US are "rapidly accelerating"?

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I will amend my statement.... based on medical guidance COVID deaths in the U.S. will rapidly accelerate over the next 7 weeks based on incoming hospitalizations and ICU patient numbers rapidly accelerating in the U.S. -- deaths merely lag positive COVID cases by about 8 weeks.

Keep in mind that the medical definition from papers is the 7 days average of cases for a disease increasing by 1% over a week long period. We have already reached this threshold whether looking at cases, hospitalizations, or deaths in the U.S.

 

[Arnie]

Deaths relative to new cases are declining, they are not accelerating. Why the hell do you post shit like this. If the real numbers are so bad, why do you lie about them? Sept 1 there were 25,166 new cases and 1091 deaths. Nov. 1 there were 74,236 new cases and 427 deaths. New cases nearly tripled and the deaths went down 60%.

 

[gwb-trading]

Coronavirus deaths are rising again in the US, as feared
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...-pence-idaho-52978c2d2646bc190bd577cb132662b3

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Deaths relative to new cases are declining, they are not accelerating. Why the hell do you post shit like this. If the real numbers are so bad, why do you lie about them? Sept 1 there were 25,166 new cases and 1091 deaths. Nov. 1 there were 74,236 new cases and 427 deaths. New cases nearly tripled and the deaths went down 60%.

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That first graph looks like Donald Trump's signature and it's a good thing. ---He has been responsible for the fast effective response to this "pandemic".