republican budget most fraudulent budget in American history.

[PiggyBank]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Well, they do have a point. Ryan again demonstratd why he isn't really ready for the big stage. His budget may make perfect sense, but to just assume you will eliminate all these tax breaks, most of which are very important to republicans, is foolish.We went down this path before in the late '80's. Dumped a bunch of tax breaks and destroyed the real estate sector in the process, in exchange for lower rates. A few years later, in comes Bill clinton and he raises those rates. so we ended up giving away a lot of deductions for nothing.

They played a variation of this game on Reagan and Bush. Both agree to huge tax increases in exchange for spending cuts, which somehow never were enacted.

How many times are we going to get fooled by this game?

The way to cut the deficit is to address the problem area, excessive spending. There are easy cuts available, starting with pointless wars and task forces in the middle east. Then eliminate useless, counterproductive or unconstitutional departments and agencies. End the War on Drugs. Consolidate Homeland Security with other security agencies and privitize the monster that is TSA.

I agree completely.. I like where your head's at, especially in the last paragraph. I don't think many people realize how much we could save if the bureaucratic budgets alone in this country were slashed by a significant %.

My understanding is that federal agencies are under the executive branch, even though Congress funds them.. so a President could simply make personnel cuts, or shut down an agency and leave it in the hands of Congress to continue to fund an agency that has been downsized or cut/assimilated completely. That would expose a lot of the power hungry whores in Congress and force them to do the right thing. We need a kamikaze one term repub President who is willing to do things like this without any regard for re-election. the results will speak for themselves.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from Free Thinker:

the way it slashes taxes for corporations and the rich while drastically cutting food and medical aid to the needy.

Did it ever occur to you that slashing taxes for corporations will mean the corporations will have more money to hire those needy, hungry jobless people and give them medical benefits while at the same time making them productive?

No, of course it didnt.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from PiggyBank:

I agree completely.. I like where your head's at, especially in the last paragraph. I don't think many people realize how much we could save if the bureaucratic budgets alone in this country were slashed by a significant %.

My understanding is that federal agencies are under the executive branch, even though Congress funds them.. so a President could simply make personnel cuts, or shut down an agency and leave it in the hands of Congress to continue to fund an agency that has been downsized or cut/assimilated completely. That would expose a lot of the power hungry whores in Congress and force them to do the right thing. We need a kamikaze one term repub President who is willing to do things like this without any regard for re-election. the results will speak for themselves.

A president doesn't quite have that power. The various agencies and departments are created by laws passed by congress, and the president can't just shut them done on his own. Nixon tried to impound appropriated funds, ie just not spend them, and it was part of the impeachment articles against him.

Ron Paul has identified $1 trillion in cuts he would attempt to make the first year, and I think it is a good starting point. I mean, does anyone think we can just go on like this for another couple of decades with no consequences?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Well, they do have a point. Ryan again demonstratd why he isn't really ready for the big stage. His budget may make perfect sense, but to just assume you will eliminate all these tax breaks, most of which are very important to republicans, is foolish.We went down this path before in the late '80's. Dumped a bunch of tax breaks and destroyed the real estate sector in the process, in exchange for lower rates. A few years later, in comes Bill clinton and he raises those rates. so we ended up giving away a lot of deductions for nothing.

They played a variation of this game on Reagan and Bush. Both agree to huge tax increases in exchange for spending cuts, which somehow never were enacted.

How many times are we going to get fooled by this game?

The way to cut the deficit is to address the problem area, excessive spending. There are easy cuts available, starting with pointless wars and task forces in the middle east. Then eliminate useless, counterproductive or unconstitutional departments and agencies. End the War on Drugs. Consolidate Homeland Security with other security agencies and privitize the monster that is TSA.

It'd only be fair for me to point out that I agree with most all of your post, since I've pointed out when I disagree with you also. The implication that Reagan and Bush are good and Clinton is bad, of course I disagree with, if you even implicated that. I liked all three, that is if we're talking about Bush senior.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Did it ever occur to you that slashing taxes for corporations will mean the corporations will have more money to hire those needy, hungry jobless people and give them medical benefits while at the same time making them productive?

No, of course it didnt.

right now 47% of corporations pay no tax at all and the effective tax rate for all corporations is about 13% while corporate income is at record highs.
what magic tax number would make these coprporation hire people they dont need because of a lack of demand?

 

[achilles28]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

How many times are we going to get fooled by this game?

The way to cut the deficit is to address the problem area, excessive spending. There are easy cuts available, starting with pointless wars and task forces in the middle east. Then eliminate useless, counterproductive or unconstitutional departments and agencies. End the War on Drugs. Consolidate Homeland Security with other security agencies and privitize the monster that is TSA.

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:


Ron Paul has identified $1 trillion in cuts he would attempt to make the first year, and I think it is a good starting point. I mean, does anyone think we can just go on like this for another couple of decades with no consequences?

Great post. Nice to see you're coming around

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Free Thinker:

right now 47% of corporations pay no tax at all

Isn't that roughly the percentage of individuals that pay no income tax?

 

[Brass]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Did it ever occur to you that slashing taxes for corporations will mean the corporations will have more money to hire those needy, hungry jobless people and give them medical benefits while at the same time making them productive?

You mean like under George W. Bush? Despite his supply-siding tax cuts for the rich, his job growth record is the very worst among all presidents that preceded him. And the cherry on top is when he gave the keys to Obama just as the car went over the cliff.

Tell us again how to choose lottery numbers that have not won in the past in order to increase the chances of winning. That story never gets old.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3488006&highlight=numbers#post3488006

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Brass:

You mean like under George W. Bush?....

You're up awfully early this morning horse's brASS . Nothing better to do with your miserable pathetic Canadian existence but bad mouth former US presidents?

 

[Brass]

Quote from Lucrum:

You're up awfully early this morning horse's brASS . Nothing better to do with your miserable pathetic Canadian existence but bad mouth former US presidents?

If I'm "pathetic" and yet you're following me around because I'm on your ET "buddy list," then I don't see how your analysis bodes well for you.