Representation without taxation

Buy1Sell2 said:
There certainly is a welfare state, but it does not directly have any electoral votes. Those who can, but have not contributed, should not have the right to vote.
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What you’re proposing is unconstitutional. Get a brain.
 
The beauty of only being able to vote if you contribute to the coffers is that it will inspire people become involved and to contribute to the good of The US. It's no wonder that people who pay no Federal Taxes will vote for the candidates that promise money to them without having to do anything for it.
 
At the country's founding, this was the state of voting--
  • 1789: The Constitution grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).
This needs to be converted into an amendment to The Constitution now with the words "white males" replaced with the words "US Citizens" and remove the phrase "(about 6% of the population)".
 
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Buy1Sell2 said:
At the country's founding, this was the state of voting--
  • 1789: The Constitution grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).
This needs to be converted into an amendment to The Constitution now with the words "white males" replaced with the words "US Citizens" and remove the phrase "(about 6% of the population)".
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We'll very likely be abolishing the Electoral College first.
 
gwb-trading said:
That "50 percent" who don't pay taxes include people collecting social security. A large majority of these people worked and paid taxes for over 40 years -- but now that they are collecting SS they don't have to pay federal taxes (unless they have additional income).

You're making the claim that people who supported our country and paid taxes for decades should be denied the right to vote because they are retired.
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Social Security benefits are taxable. The amount subject to tax depends on your income. The higher your income, the greater the percentage of Social Security benefits subject to tax and it could reach as much as 85% of your benefits. Majority of Social Security recepients pay taxes on their benefits. Of course, if you fall below a certain income, your Social Security benefits are not taxed. Only a small number get that tax benefit. Majority of Social Security recepients end up paying taxes on their Social Security benefits.
 
smallfil said:
Social Security benefits are taxable. The amount subject to tax depends on your income. The higher your income, the greater the percentage of Social Security benefits subject to tax and it could reach as much as 85% of your benefits. Majority of Social Security recepients pay taxes on their benefits. Of course, if you fall below a certain income, your Social Security benefits are not taxed. Only a small number get that tax benefit. Majority of Social Security recepients end up paying taxes on their Social Security benefits.
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Just for reference -- 52% of SSN recipients pay federal taxes on their benefits (2015 figure). This percentage is estimated to rise to 56% in 2015.

So in summary 48% of social security recipients currently do not pay federal taxes on their benefits -- this can hardly be described as a "small number" - it is 48% of 64 million recipients or 30.7 Million people.

The huge majority of people who pay federal taxes on their SSN are paying due to having additional income (either investment or employment) which places them over the threshold. Very few people collecting SSN with no additional income pay federal income taxes.
 
so illegals that pay taxes get to vote?
foreigners that pay US taxes from generating income get to vote?

didn't think this one through did ya?
 
gwb-trading said:
Just for reference -- 52% of SSN recipients pay federal taxes on their benefits (2015 figure). This percentage is estimated to rise to 56% in 2015.

So in summary 48% of social security recipients currently do not pay federal taxes on their benefits -- this can hardly be described as a "small number" - it is 48% of 64 million recipients or 30.7 Million people.

The huge majority of people who pay federal taxes on their SSN are paying due to having additional income (either investment or employment) which places them over the threshold. Very few people collecting SSN with no additional income pay federal income taxes.
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Note this should be "This percentage is estimated to rise to 56% in 2050."
 
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