Report estimates 10K businesses left California over eight years

Zzzz1 said:
PS have you ever served in the armed forces abroad?
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Yes, have you? Are are you going to tell me that you know far more about that than me too, because although I spent an entire career serving you spent "a few weeks" talking to someone in the military? You're a real piece of work, what's wrong with you!
 
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My reply was regarding the which island in Hawaii is the best to live on.
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Let me take at a stab at this I lived on Oahu for over 15 years and through my work have spent a lot of time on Kauai, Big Island, Lanai, and Molokai. Now on Maui for last 11 years. Each Island has it's own character - everybody will have their own personal preference. Oahu (Honolulu) is usually rated in most national reviews as the healthiest and safest city in the US to live in. It's beaches attract world travelers and usually finish in the top world rankings. Now living and working there can be a completely different experience for people from the mainland due to the culture being more like Tokyo and the cost of living. Most love it for 6 months to 2 years than end up moving back to the mainland - those they stay longer either got hitched to a local or are fanatical about an ocean or outdoor sport they stay active in. A local surfer friend told me that paradise was a state of mind and not a place -I think that is right on.
 
comagnum said:
My reply was regarding the which island in Hawaii is the best to live on.
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Let me take at a stab at this I lived on Oahu for over 15 years and through my work have spent a lot of time on Kauai, Big Island, Lanai, and Molokai. Now on Maui for last 11 years. Each Island has it's own character - everybody will have their own personal preference. Oahu (Honolulu) is usually rated in most national reviews as the healthiest and safest city in the US to live in. It's beaches attract world travelers and usually finish in the top world rankings. Now living and working there can be a completely different experience for people from the mainland due to the culture being more like Tokyo and the cost of living. Most love it for 6 months to 2 years than end up moving back to the mainland - those they stay longer either got hitched to a local or are fanatical about an ocean or outdoor sport they stay active in. A local surfer friend told me that paradise was a state of mind and not a place -I think that is right on.
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Forgot the surf, North Shore Oahu is definitely the place for that.
 
Listen mate, you really have to move out from the projects. Goodness. Sounds like you suffered big time in Oahu. Where do you live now? Life must be unbearable for someone like you.

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"Inside the island", I don't even know what that means and using that terminology demonstrates you didn't spend time interacting with people who actually lived there. Which is completely different from visiting a place, any place, just so you know.
By the way, the center of Oahu is a large Army base and pineapple fields, where did you stay exactly? Millilani, one of the more upscale Haole subdivisions on the Island? How many times did you visit the Waianie? How many times did you leave your car parked in Eva Beach? Anywhere from Haleiwa to Kaeana Point? How often did you commute the H-1? How many times did people graffiti the fence around your house, or dump old tires, toilets, bathtubs...in your and your neighbors front lawns overnight for no other reason than that you lived in a nice subdivision and they were too lazy to visit the free transfer station? Seriously, you spent "about a month" on Oahu and you're suddenly the expert on all the issues with the Island and you're telling someone who lived there for 3 years that they don't know what they're talking about? Who the heck do you think you are anyway, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about!
My reply was regarding the which island in Hawaii is the best to live on. I think you'd be pretty damn hard pressed to find anyone who would argue that it's Oahu who had actually lived there. Your pontification is demonstrably worthless on this point.
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Zzzz1 said:
Listen mate, you really have to move out from the projects. Goodness. Sounds like you suffered big time in Oahu. Where do you live now? Life must be unbearable for someone like you.
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You failed to answer a single one of my questions. Let me repeat them in case you missed them. I'll number them so they're clear.

1. The center of Oahu is a large Army base and pineapple fields, where did you stay exactly?
2. How many times did you visit the Waianie?
3. How many times did you leave your car parked in Eva Beach? Anywhere from Haleiwa to Kaeana Point?
4. How often did you commute the H-1?
5. How many times did people graffiti the fence around your house, or dump old tires, toilets, bathtubs...in your and your neighbors front lawns overnight for no other reason than that you lived in a nice subdivision and they were too lazy to visit the free transfer station?
6. Why do you think spending "about a month" on Oahu qualifies you as an expert who can tell people who lived there for several years that they don't know what they're talking about?
7. What do any of your comments have to do with the relative attractiveness of Oahu to the other islands? Note: See comagnum's excellent example of a post by someone who knows what they're talking about, can address the topic at hand, and is able to express a differing opinion civilly in a way that led me to admit that I'd missed a big point in favor of Oahu.
8. How long did you serve in the military?

I know these are all inconvenient for you and you tend to just dodge inconvenient questions and try to change the subject when they come up, did you notice how you do that? It makes for an ineffective argument, but if you're just trolling which your sudden posts on this thread certainly seem to be, then I guess you're a pro!
 
You really need to focus on the good aspects of life, mate. It really sounds like you are living a miserable life wherever you are if you feel like this about Oahu. I choose not to get into another ridiculous argument with you here hence I won't answer your questions. I already told you I only stayed in Oahu 1 month, none of which spent in Honolulu. And I have been around the island quite a bit in the context of what one can do in 1 month. I simply laugh about how you portray this island. Either you lived in a shithole and neighborhood and your glorious MBA got you nowhere or maybe you served in the armed forces there and were abused in the bathrooms. Whatever gripe you have with life get over yourself and be somewhere you really enjoy. Most everyone on this planet will laugh hysterically about the depiction of Oahu the way you delivered it. I am out of this thread, just found your description of life in Oahu too ridiculous to pass up uncommented

Sig said:
You failed to answer a single one of my questions. Let me repeat them in case you missed them. I'll number them so they're clear.

1. The center of Oahu is a large Army base and pineapple fields, where did you stay exactly?
2. How many times did you visit the Waianie?
3. How many times did you leave your car parked in Eva Beach? Anywhere from Haleiwa to Kaeana Point?
4. How often did you commute the H-1?
5. How many times did people graffiti the fence around your house, or dump old tires, toilets, bathtubs...in your and your neighbors front lawns overnight for no other reason than that you lived in a nice subdivision and they were too lazy to visit the free transfer station?
6. Why do you think spending "about a month" on Oahu qualifies you as an expert who can tell people who lived there for several years that they don't know what they're talking about?
7. What do any of your comments have to do with the relative attractiveness of Oahu to the other islands? Note: See comagnum's excellent example of a post by someone who knows what they're talking about, can address the topic at hand, and is able to express a differing opinion civilly in a way that led me to admit that I'd missed a big point in favor of Oahu.
8. How long did you serve in the military?

I know these are all inconvenient for you and you tend to just dodge inconvenient questions and try to change the subject when they come up, did you notice how you do that? It makes for an ineffective argument, but if you're just trolling which your sudden posts on this thread certainly seem to be, then I guess you're a pro!
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Here4money said:
I'm sure it's been asked, but did the state have a net gain or net loss in businesses propping up?
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Read this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-business-climate-20160102-story.html

.....newly established businesses faster than all but four other states.

Less than 1% of all businesses that disappeared in California in 2013 were due to out-of-state relocations, according to data from Youreconomy.org, which tracks business dynamics across the country. That's in line with the average for all states.
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And an earlier Beacon analysis of census migration data showed that, despite California's comparatively high income tax rates, more people making in excess of $100,000 a year moved to California from other states from 2007 to 2013 than those who left.

Moreover, research has shown that "business climate" rankings — which typically look at a state's corporate taxes and regulatory environment — have less to do with overall economic performance than factors such as favorable weather, geography or being home to a diverse mix of industries. That gives California, with its highly skilled workforce and strategic location on the Pacific Rim, a natural advantage over many other parts of the country.
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