Remember this pathetic option seller who lost $150 million for shorting natural gas and crude naked?

[JSOP]

It's been almost two years already. Time flies so fast. This is an update about the lawsuit that is still going on to try to recover something for the victims.

https://www.institutionalinvestor.c...Street-s-Viral-Laughingstock-OptionSeller-com

Plaintiffs are starting to die because many of them are retirees and the broker is charging those victims interest on unpaid margin obligations the gall of them.

 

[maxinger]

selling naked option?!?!?
Did they employ professional newbie trader or what?


I sold naked option before when I was a newbie trader.
I collected $50 happily when I sold naked option. 2 days later, I cut loss at $2000,
happiness was replaced by misery and I couldn't sleep for many days.
Luckily I made that mistake ONLY ONCE !!!

 

[lindq]

selling naked option?!?!?
Did they employ professional newbie trader or what?


I sold naked option before when I was a newbie trader.
I collected $50 happily when I sold naked option. 2 days later, I cut loss at $2000,
happiness was replaced by misery and I couldn't sleep for many days.
Luckily I made that mistake ONLY ONCE !!!

I sympathize. My loss as a newbie on naked puts in one day was over 150K. My first and only margin call. It took me 10 years to recover.

But purely my fault. I had been warned, and didn't listen.

 

[Nobert]

Is there equivalent for Pareto's Distribution, as an alternative of a dark side, that relates to scammers and idiots ?
Because like Theranos and this man, few manages to get to the very, temporary top.

Bought Security Analysis by B.G, for $20, ~3 years prior, to the first time of going live. Somewhere it wrote :
,,...naked puts - one of the most dangerous financial products there is''

I sympathize. My loss as a newbie on naked puts in one day was over 150K. My first and only margin call. It took me 10 years to recover.

But purely my fault. I had been warned, and didn't listen.

Damn, ouch. Congratz on making it back, and not giving up.


p.s (laughs), i expected to see, inside of the article, a comeback story, and now - it's only getting worse.

 

[JSOP]

selling naked option?!?!?
Did they employ professional newbie trader or what?


I sold naked option before when I was a newbie trader.
I collected $50 happily when I sold naked option. 2 days later, I cut loss at $2000,
happiness was replaced by misery and I couldn't sleep for many days.
Luckily I made that mistake ONLY ONCE !!!

LOL It's the founder of the hedge fund (they call it a hedge fund. Still don't know what he was hedging against) who was doing this. The guy published like four books (you can buy them from amazon) on how great it is to short options naked. His strategy is shorting REALLY deep OTM options in HUGE quantities using margins. So even though he's making peanuts in premiums but because the quantity is so large he makes good returns for his investors and at the same time must earn huge commission kickbacks from the broker.

And he did that for years with no problems until Nov. of 2018 when the market went all against his positions in what he called "rogue waves" and he lost everything for his former clients and more because he used such huge margin, his former clients aka victims now owe money to the broker and the broker is charging his former clients interest because they refused to pay.

 

[maxinger]

LOL It's the founder of the hedge fund (they call it a hedge fund. Still don't know what he was hedging against) who was doing this. The guy published like four books (you can buy them from amazon) on how great it is to short options naked. His strategy is shorting REALLY deep OTM options in HUGE quantities using margins. So even though he's making peanuts in premiums but because the quantity is so large he makes good returns for his investors and at the same time must earn huge commission kickbacks from the broker.

And he did that for years with no problems until Nov. of 2018 when the market went all against his positions in what he called "rogue waves" and he lost everything for his former clients and more because he used such huge margin, his former clients aka victims now owe money to the broker and the broker is charging his former clients interest because they refused to pay.

my goodness!!! perfect description of a professional newbie trader!!!
It could cost not just lost of $$ but lives !

 

[Option_Attack]

Yep, selling calls without a protection long leg will eventually gaff you. Just no way to model a rare, but inevitable, outlier move. Selling puts can certainly f you up if you over lever, but not like 'dem calls. And if you sell naked calls on a small and "safe" percent of your account you just make darn near nuthin'.

Resist the urge!

 

[JSOP]

my goodness!!! perfect description of a professional newbie trader!!!
It could cost not just lost of $$ but lives !

Oh no he's not considered a newbie trader, no. LOL He was featured on CNBC, Bloomberg, MSNBC, pretty much all of the investment shows across all media forms. The guy is (well was) considered a guru, a master in option investing. LOL That's the scary part. His loss was $150 million!! Imagine how much money his victims trusted him to invest.

The guy is smooth though. After he lost everything, he made a 10-min. Youtube video wearing gold Rolex watches apologizing to his clients. LOL It's something to watch...

 

[JSOP]

Yep, selling calls without a protection long leg will eventually gaff you. Just no way to model a rare, but inevitable, outlier move. Selling puts can certainly f you up if you over lever, but not like 'dem calls. And if you sell naked calls on a small and "safe" percent of your account you just make darn near nuthin'.

Resist the urge!

It's not even that profitable. I dunno why people would do it. The calls premium is never as high as on puts.

 

[JSOP]

Is there equivalent for Pareto's Distribution, as an alternative of a dark side, that relates to scammers and idiots ?
Because like Theranos and this man, few manages to get to the very, temporary top.

Bought Security Analysis by B.G, for $20, ~3 years prior, to the first time of going live. Somewhere it wrote :
,,...naked puts - one of the most dangerous financial products there is''



Damn, ouch. Congratz on making it back, and not giving up.


p.s (laughs), i expected to see, inside of the article, a comeback story, and now - it's only getting worse.

I know I was hoping for some justice for his victims too. It was a bit sad to see some of them even died without seeing justice done.