Remember- HAMAS started it. They killed innocent children

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The Palestinians should blame their own people ( Hamas ). The Palestinians should blame themselves for letting HAMAS control and govern the Palestinian people.
It was HAMAS that butchered babies and raped young girls. They are brutal animals and need to be destroyed. War is not about " you killed 10 of ours so we are only allowed to kill 10 of yours."
Why doesnt any other muslim country want to take in any Palestinians?
 
The_hero said:
The Palestinians should blame their own people ( Hamas ). The Palestinians should blame themselves for letting HAMAS control and govern the Palestinian people.
It was HAMAS that butchered babies and raped young girls. They are brutal animals and need to be destroyed. War is not about " you killed 10 of ours so we are only allowed to kill 10 of yours."
Why doesnt any other muslim country want to take in any Palestinians?
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Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon are the three largest Muslim countries taking in Palestinian refugees.

Egypt has Palestinian refugees too but they're considered to be an "invisible community" there in a Muslim country that has a very complicated immigration policy with a distrust of those with ties to Hamas.

Regardless, the Arab/Israel War has been very complicated since it started way back in 1948 due to a mass migration of European Jews. In my opinion, the British decided to handle the mass migration, making backroom deals that made them realize they fucked it all up...they ran after seeing rebellion, murder, and assaults that lead to WAR.


It's a War that both sides have never and will never forget. They will continue doing to each other what they're doing today until one completely erases the other from the planet.

As for Hamas controlling Palestine and you blaming the people that allowed it...they're no different than other countries believing in someone or a group that wins control of their government after many LIES and DECEPTION...

Later leading the country into War against another country or civil wars within its own country. For example, Germany did it too which led to WWII...before that...the United States did it too that led to it's own Civil War.

War is ugly and always will be. Those that lost their land, homes, loved ones will never forget...never forgiven...radicals within each side will continue plotting revenge. Both sides forever blaming the other especially when one culture, race, ethnicity group believes they're better than another.

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Those countries are not taking in a lot of Palestinians at all. Hamas started this and Hamas caused this. The sheer brutality and cruelty that muslim terrorists commit on innocent people is beyond the pale. It's no different than what Mexican drug cartels do.
I do agree that the zionist movement and creation of Isreal as a Jewish homeland is extremely complicated and I hate using the word complicated when it comes to political discussions. But this situation is complicated.
 
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Those countries are not taking in a lot of Palestinians at all...
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Those countries (Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan) took in Palestinian refugees in 2024 from the Israel/Hamas War according to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)...most left before Gaza was sealed off.

Yet, I do not know what your definition of "a lot".

Today, those countries are very afraid of Hamas blending in with refugees that have existing family connections in those countries...afraid those individuals will use those countries to launch further attacks on Israel...escalating the War.

Egypt is the toughest country for the refugees to immigrate to because of their very difficult immigration policy...its difficult immigration policy to minimize the risk of ruining a 40 year peace treaty with Israel.

Refugees with money or have wealthy family members already living in those countries have been paying thousands of dollars to brokers to get them into any of those countries.

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My issue is the level of cruelty and barbaric actions of Hamas. However, it's not just Hamas, its other Muslim terrorists as well. The level of cruelty and brutality makes you wonder if they are 100% human. Then again, the Mexican drug cartels are just as bad.
 
I think one of the fundamental problems is that people think they're morally entitled to land/resources on this planet. They aren't. People with control either have to be nice enough to give/share it with you or you have to fight for it. If you want people to be nice enough to give/share it with you it's best to be nice to them. If you fight them, you better be able to put up a real fight. This is where Hamas ultimately comes up short. They want Israel's land, but they have no ability to put up a real fight. Given the fundamentalist ideology of Hamas, I think that's a good thing for moving civilization forward. While I don't fully agree with Israel's ideology, I think it's easily superior. Countries that promote free speech don't go to war with each other.
 
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