Religious bigotry in America? Yep, from a republican's lips to Jesus's ear

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Oh sure, sure, throw logic and common sense out the window in favor of fear mongering and repressive thinking....I guess that is the answer.

The American Muslims meet in Mosques and plan how to terrorize the people of Iraq and how to attack Israel.

Delusional...

The simple undeniable truth is that a white male American veteran caused more harm with a terrorist event in America than any American Muslim ever has, and in addition there is no factual evidence to support any claim that American Mosques are the meeting places where American Muslims plan to engage in terrorist attacks.

Religious bigotry is alive and well here at ET, you clearly demonstrate that.

Quote from dddooo:

The freedom of assembly and the freedom to worship do not extend to religious cults inciting violence, hatred, genocide and intolerance. The jury is still out on whether Islam should be considered such a cult, I suppose thousands of terror attacks carried out every year all over the world by muslim extremists while the so-called "peaceful" or "moderate" muslims tacitly and often explicitly approve, defend and justify these attacks is not enough. I guess AAA is right, it will take a few more 9/11s.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

The American Muslims meet in Mosques and plan how to terrorize the people of Iraq and how to attack Israel.

Poll: A quarter of younger Muslim Americans support suicide bombings in some circumstances

"It is a hair-raising number," Radwa Masmoudi, head of the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, tells the AP.

A quarter of the respondents didn't express an opinion when asked whether they held a favorable or unfavorable view of al-Qaeda. (About 5% say they have a favorable view of the terrorist group.)

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/poll_a_quarter_.html

And as bad as these numbers are in the US, they are actually much worse in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from Turok:

AAA:
>The point you and Bush miss is that islam is not really
>a religion in the sense the First Amendment envisions.

If it wasn't coming from you I would hardly have believed that someone would be willing to say that.

All for religious freedom as long as it's yours or something like it.

You should be ashamed -- there are far too many peaceful muslims and far too many dangerous christians (like one saying god tells him how to run the country) for your statement to make any sense at all.

Freaks.

JB

I question how much you know about islam. No one is threatening muslims right to worship. When worship turns to encouraging violence or terrorism, clearly the government has a valid concern. Would you be willing to decalre KKK meetings off limits to the FBI because they have a religious component?

The fact is that islam is not merely a spiritual exercise. Rather, it is a series of instructions for every aspect of a muslim's life. A significant part of it is devoted to expanding islam, by any means available. Unlike Chrisitanity with its emphasis on free will, islam depends heavily on coercion. The list of capital offenses is a long one.

Despite your attempt at moral equivalency about how many "dangerous Christians" are out there, the fact is that they are few and far between. More importantly, Christianity does not validate or encourage violence. Islam does. Muslim spiritual leaders are on the forefront advocating violence. They hide behind the cloak of religion, and europeans and americans befuddled by multiculturalism swallow it.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

My guess is a quarter to a half of right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians would support suicide bombings by Americans of Islamic countries, though I doubt they personally wouldn't have the balls to do it.

It is common knowledge that a very large number of Americans support/supported the outright nuking of Iran/Iraq/Syria etc., which would have resulted in the killing of millions of innocent Muslims, etc.

This was seen immediately on message boards in America after 9/11, it was difficult to find many people who did not endorse such thinking.

Does this mean they were actually planning to kill Muslims, that they represent a danger to Muslims, and should be locked up for thinking "bad thoughts"?

Did we see outrage from the right wingers, the klannish and the neocons when Coulter suggesting that we "convert to Christianity or kill" Muslims?

Nope, not at all.

Lacking any supportive fact to support your bigotry, you reach further and further in the abyss of your religious bigotry.

You paint with such a broad brush of religious bigotry, which is so radically different than 40 years ago, when good Jews marched in support of the religious freedoms of every human being to assemble and worship in whatever legal manner they chose.

Quote from dddooo:

Poll: A quarter of younger Muslim Americans support suicide bombings in some circumstances

"It is a hair-raising number," Radwa Masmoudi, head of the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, tells the AP.

A quarter of the respondents didn't express an opinion when asked whether they held a favorable or unfavorable view of al-Qaeda. (About 5% say they have a favorable view of the terrorist group.)

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/poll_a_quarter_.html

And as bad as these numbers are in the US, they are actually much worse in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

My guess is a quarter to a half of right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians would support suicide bombings by Americans of Islamic countries, though I doubt they personally wouldn't have the balls to do it.

Your guess, huh? Why don't you get real knowledge and accurate information instead of guessing. Virtually all terrorist attacks in the world are carried out by muslim extremists, not by "right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians". And make no mistake about it, the so-called "moderate" muslims fully support these attacks and do absolutely nothing to clean up their house. And lest you forget 1 million Iraqis were not killed by "right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians" or american troops either, they were killed by muslim terrorists.

 

[Turok]

AAA"
>Unlike Chrisitanity with its emphasis on free will,
>islam depends heavily on coercion.

Not sure I can keep typing I'm laughing so hard.

>Christianity does not validate or encourage violence.
>Islam does.

You only hold that position because you don't read/follow the entire bible like the crazies do. You have to pick and choose from both the bible and the koran to come to that conclusion.

>I question how much you know about islam.

I question how much you know about christianity. Actually, that's not true - - I don't question it...You don't know much about christianity. What you spew is canned.

The extremes on each side will go on forever.

JB

 

[Turok]

zTroll:
>My guess is a quarter to a half of right wing
>fundamentalist klannish Christians would support
>suicide bombings by Americans of Islamic countries,
>though I doubt they personally wouldn't have the
>balls to do it.

I don't have to guess -- you're just full of s**t on that one.

Now, B52s from 45,000msl -- probably more than half.

JB

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

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09-18-07 06:32 PM


I have the ultimate control so why should I whine.

Quote from Turok:

zTroll:
>My guess is a quarter to a half of right wing
>fundamentalist klannish Christians would support
>suicide bombings by Americans of Islamic countries,
>though I doubt they personally wouldn't have the
>balls to do it.

I don't have to guess -- you're just full of s**t on that one.

Now, B52s from 45,000msl -- probably more than half.

JB

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

The comments in this initial post in this thread were not about the world at large, but they are about the United States and the number of Mosques.

You have no evidence that shows large scale terrorists attacks against America or Americans by Americans Muslims, nor any evidence of American Muslims who planned such attacks or are currently planning such attacks in these Mosques where they worship.

There is zero evidence showing American Muslims were involved in any way with the planning and execution of 9/11.

Yes, the painting of fear with the broad brush of religious bigotry continues by do do.

"And lest you forget 1 million Iraqis were not killed by "right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians" or american troops either, they were killed by muslim terrorists."

Complete horse shit.

Quote from dddooo:

Your guess, huh? Why don't you get real knowledge and accurate information instead of guessing. Virtually all terrorist attacks in the world are carried out by muslim extremists, not by "right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians". And make no mistake about it, the so-called "moderate" muslims fully support these attacks and do absolutely nothing to clean up their house. And lest you forget 1 million Iraqis were not killed by "right wing fundamentalist klannish Christians" or american troops either, they were killed by muslim terrorists.

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from dddooo:

Poll: A quarter of younger Muslim Americans support suicide bombings in some circumstances

"It is a hair-raising number," Radwa Masmoudi, head of the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, tells the AP.

A quarter of the respondents didn't express an opinion when asked whether they held a favorable or unfavorable view of al-Qaeda. (About 5% say they have a favorable view of the terrorist group.)

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/poll_a_quarter_.html

And as bad as these numbers are in the US, they are actually much worse in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

In all fairness, these numbers would probably be equally bad among the nonmuslim populations in Asia and Africa (with the exception of perhaps Japan and South Korea) - just look at local media coverages in Beijing, Taipei, Manila or Bangkok. The universal sympathy and solidarity towards the US right after 9/11 have all but dissipated. It says more about our foreign policy failures than the radicalism of their populations.

OTOH, I am alarmed by the sympathy towards Al Qaeda by the some of the local Muslims here in the US. Everyone should place their loyalty to the country ahead of the loyalty to their own religion. But we should not paint the whole population with a single brush. A majority of them do know the right from the wrong.