Religion is a hypothesis.

CaptainObvious · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from Ricter:

Evidence, as defined by science, has of course some subjectivity to it still, but I don't believe it's fair to say "highly subjective". I think we've done a pretty good job, within the context of survival utility, of creating objectivity.

Perhaps I should have been more clear. The degree of subjectivity is relative to the person interpeting the science. In Vhehn's case, highly subjective is appropriate.

Gabfly1 · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

I'll repeat the question to be as clear as possible:

Do think your personal belief system is superior to that of other people who have a different belief system?

How would your repetition of affected obtuseness provide any additional clarity?

CaptainObvious · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from Index piker:

Most assuredly part of the problem is personal anger as previously discussed by myself way back on pg 80.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184074&perpage=6&pagenumber=80

I tend to agree! In most cases where I've debated atheists it eventually comes to light that their real problem is with organized religion. They cannot get past their issues with religion and simply refuse to see that religion and God are not always one of the same. They can be, and often are, but not always. Compounding the problem, political bias further skews their views, making intellectually honest conversations with them nearly impossible.

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 10, 2009

How is it that you are unable to answer a simple direct question?

Is it because you are afraid of the answer you give if you are honest?

Quote from Gabfly1:

How would your repetition of affected obtuseness provide any additional clarity?

Ricter · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

How is it that you are unable to answer a simple direct question?

Is it because you are afraid of the answer you give if you are honest?

I wondered the same about you, years ago, when I asked you a pivotal (to the discussion) question about the relative motions of the planets.

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 10, 2009

I don't recall, so since it appears to still be on your mind from years ago (?) ask the question again...

Quote from Ricter:

I wondered the same about you, years ago, when I asked you a pivotal (to the discussion) question about the relative motions of the planets.

Gabfly1 · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

How is it that you are unable to answer a simple direct question?

Is it because you are afraid of the answer you give if you are honest?

Yeah, that's it. That's why I don't wish to continue an exchange with a disingenuous person who argues in circles when it suits him. Despite the fact that feeding you with fodder for your artistic license is such a meaningful way to spend time.

Ricter · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

I don't recall, so since it appears to still be on your mind from years ago (?) ask the question again...

The question, the discussion, just water under the bridge now. I merely noted then that, backed into a corner, you began evading, which is what you just accused Gabfly of doing.

Free Thinker · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I tend to agree! In most cases where I've debated atheists it eventually comes to light that their real problem is with organized religion.

i would say it more of a problem with willfull ignorance.

Index piker · Dec 10, 2009

Quote from vhehn:

i would say it more of a problem with willfull ignorance.

I agree, you have a problem with willful ignorance and a problem with spelling willful correctly.