Religion is a hypothesis.

Index piker · Dec 1, 2009

Quote from bigarrow:

How about you piker, what would it take for you to believe in Allah or the Sun god or any of the thousands of gods which you probably don't believe in? You answer that question and then you'll have the answer to yours.

As an ex-monk been there done that.

I just offered those suggested questions if you wanted the possibility of fruitful results.

Of course we all know certain posters (you being one of them) seek nothing other than to belittle others for their beliefs and conclusions.

sad really

kut2k2 · Dec 1, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Science is not a courtroom...

Doh!!!

That's your comeback to all I wrote? Pity. I expected more.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.)" -- Carl Sagan

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 1, 2009

Evidence in hard science genuinely matters.

Cosmology and the big bang theory is not hard science, it is nothing more than the guess of scientists.

There is no way to test or disprove the theory, any more than there is a test or a method of proving/disproving God...

It is useless as science, but it gives comfort to the atheists, so it ain't all bad...even atheists need a religion...apparently.

Quote from kut2k2:

That's your comeback to all I wrote? Pity. I expected more.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.)" -- Carl Sagan

kut2k2 · Dec 1, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Evidence in hard science genuinely matters.

Cosmology and the big bang theory is not hard science, it is nothing more than the guess of scientists.

There is no way to test or disprove the theory, any more than there is a test or a method of proving/disproving God...

It is useless as science, but it gives comfort to the atheists, so it ain't all bad...even atheists need a religion...apparently.

Every scientific theory is falsifiable, including the Big Bang theory.

Your claim that atheists make a "religion" out of cosmology makes no sense.

What is it, the lack of exactness that bothers you? Most sciences are inexact in some area of study. Only mathematics is always exact.

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 1, 2009

...exactly how to you falsify the big bang theory?

*Hint: The big bang could still be true without an expanding universe.

So math is the only hard science?

ROTFLMAO...

Quote from kut2k2:

Every scientific theory is falsifiable, including the Big Bang theory.

Your insistence that atheists make a "religion" out of cosmology makes no sense.

What is it, the lack of exactness? Most sciences are inexact in some area of study. Only mathematics is always exact.

kut2k2 · Dec 1, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

...exactly how to you falsify the big bang theory?

Ask an astrophysicist.

And I don't know of any atheist, myself included, who'd lose it if the Big Bang theory was falsified. But I know plenty of theists who'd lose it if their God was falsified.

So what exactly is your point?

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 1, 2009

So you don't know...

LOL!!!

Exactly how would God be falsified?

Quote from kut2k2:

Ask an astrophysicist.

And I don't know of any atheist, myself included, who'd lose it if the Big Bang theory was falsified. But I know plenty of theists who'd lose it if their God was falsified.

So what exactly is your point?

kut2k2 · Dec 1, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

So you don't know...

LOL!!!

Exactly how would God be falsified?

Why should I answer your questions when you refuse to answer mine? This conversation has become pointless.

OPTIONAL777 · Dec 1, 2009

So you can't answer the question...

LOL!!!

Quote from kut2k2:

Why should I answer your questions when you refuse to answer mine? This conversation has become pointless.

kut2k2 · Dec 2, 2009

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

...exactly how to[sic] you falsify the big bang theory?

The same way you falsify any other testable hypothesis: by finding evidence that contradicts it.

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Exactly how would God be falsified?

Depends on what you mean by "God".

Some gods are readily falsifiable (and already have been falsified); others may not be falsifiable. Different theists have different concepts of gods.

Let me simplify this for you:

Deism is not falsifiable. Deism requires faith, but it doesn't require blind faith.

But most theisms make extravagant creation and post-creation claims about their gods and they are, for the most part, easily falsifiable. Most theisms require blind faith; their believers are willfully ignorant of all evidence that contradicts their beliefs. I'm pretty sure yours is one of them, given your desperate attempt to equate belief in the Big Bang theory with belief in "God" (whatever that is

).

Define your "God" if you dare, then we can talk about falsifiability.