Religion is a hypothesis.

Quote from vhehn:

the superstitious mind. its a thing of beauty. did it ever occur to you that if any scientist were to come up with some evidence for id he would be world famous? why do you think none ever has?
the id proponents want their ideas accepted as science without the step of peer reviewed evidence. why. because well its looks too complicated to happen naturally. the whole id movement rests on one idea. it looks complicated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOtP7HEuDYA
Many Intelligent Design proponents often cite the complexity of the eye as proof that the eye is so complicated that it could not have evolved. Here scientists and educators explain how the eye fits very well into Darwin's evolution model.

That's okay the whole Darwinian model that atheists invoke is
1) That something popped out of nothing.
followed by:

2) magic happened to that something now we have "life"
 
Quote from vhehn:

the superstitious mind. its a thing of beauty. did it ever occur to you that if any scientist were to come up with some evidence for id he would be world famous? why do you think none ever has?
the id proponents want their ideas accepted as science without the step of peer reviewed evidence. why. because well its looks too complicated to happen naturally. the whole id movement rests on one idea. it looks complicated.


I don't think that's true at all. What proponents of ID would like to see is a balanced approach to the understanding of our creation. What is it that the Darwinists fear? I could make just the same arguement about them as you have for the ID researchers. Evolution is pretty damn complicated without some of the assumptions that are taken as gospel.
These people should be working together, not against each other. Unless someone is afraid of the truth, that is.
An interesting article http://www.icr.org/article/493/
 
It is a certainty that if the atheists turned their attention toward finding the flaws in the theory they embrace, they would find gigantic holes...

Quote from vhehn:

the superstitious mind. its a thing of beauty. did it ever occur to you that if any scientist were to come up with some evidence for id he would be world famous? why do you think none ever has?
the id proponents want their ideas accepted as science without the step of peer reviewed evidence. why. because well its looks too complicated to happen naturally. the whole id movement rests on one idea. it looks complicated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOtP7HEuDYA
Many Intelligent Design proponents often cite the complexity of the eye as proof that the eye is so complicated that it could not have evolved. Here scientists and educators explain how the eye fits very well into Darwin's evolution model.
 
Quote from Index piker:

That's okay the whole Darwinian model that atheists invoke is
1) That something popped out of nothing.
followed by:

2) magic happened to that something now we have "life"
The problem with being confused in the way you are, is it will cause you to think everything looks the same as a God surmisal.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

It is a certainty that if the atheists turned their attention toward finding the flaws in the theory they embrace, they would find gigantic holes...
...and that those holes would be mere smudges on the landscape as compared to the canyons found in the theories embraced by theists.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

I don't think that's true at all. What proponents of ID would like to see is a balanced approach to the understanding of our creation. What is it that the Darwinists fear? I could make just the same arguement about them as you have for the ID researchers. Evolution is pretty damn complicated without some of the assumptions that are taken as gospel.
These people should be working together, not against each other. Unless someone is afraid of the truth, that is.
An interesting article http://www.icr.org/article/493/
That's like saying although Math starts out very simply with 1+1 =2, like Evolution does , the illogical assumptions and downright question begging which ID starts out with should be alongside Math, confusing any understanding of the universe as much as possible to make it seem like ID is relevant,
 
So the holes are better than canyons?

LOL!

Man, you have no clue as to what science or logic actually are...

A real scientist simply says "I don't know, but I believe ______ based on the limited information I have."

The truly logical philosopher scoffs at the illogical position of the atheist's and their "holy" belief systems.

Quote from Gabfly1:

...and that those holes would be mere smudges on the landscape as compared to the canyons found in the theories embraced by theists.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

...The truly logical philosopher scoffs at the illogical position of...
...prostrating himself before a "god" who, by all accounts, clearly does not give a shit one way or the other. (Almost as if he wasn't there. Hmm.)
 
What are you talking about?

Quote from Gabfly1:

...prostrating himself before a "god" who, by all accounts, clearly does not give a shit one way or the other. (Almost as if he wasn't there. Hmm.)
 
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