Religion is a hypothesis.

Admin knows the truth of the situation longshot, you don't...

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777 has a lot of handles on here, some obvious some not so obvious. word to admin.. he has a hotbrick you know :p
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"The only people who believe I have beliefs..."

Without counter beliefs you would have full acceptance of the beliefs of atheists...

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I state my opinions not beliefs.
I don't accept your facts are facts, and when I face those, I find no reason for having a belief in them.

The only people who believe I have beliefs, are the theists like you who tell me what I believe.
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"The only people who believe I have beliefs..."

Without counter beliefs you would have full acceptance of the beliefs of atheists...
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With or without counter religious beliefs, with or without you telling me what my acceptance of non-religious belief is, whether you like it or not, I remain without religious beliefs.
Simply because I find no reason to have any religious beliefs .

No belief is not a belief and if the best you can do is pretend everyone who does not have belief does have belief , then your argument for religion has become even more pathetic than ever.
One more reason to have no belief.

Opinions are quite a different thing, in case you haven't yet realized.
 
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I state my opinions not beliefs.
I don't accept your facts are facts, and when I face those, I find no reason for having a belief in them.

The only people who believe I have beliefs, are the theists like you who tell me what I believe.
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Good thing for you that all of these posts of yours are not your beliefs but merely "your opinion".

On your basis ( of hugely differentiating opinion &belief to make you more comfortable in your convictions) I'll gladly discount your opinion (personal convictions) into nothingness.

That should make you fweel better.

I mean I wouldn't want to make you uncomfortable and devalue your self worth by people here denigrating your strong beliefs and personal convictions.
 
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One more reason to have no belief.

Opinions are quite a different thing, in case you haven't yet realized.
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Hmm the dictionary seems to think they are quite closely related

belief
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction

opinion
noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
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But then again arbitrarily defining concepts and evidence to suit your personal desires is your biggest forte.
 
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Good thing for you that all of these posts of yours are not your beliefs but merely "your opinion".

On your basis ( of hugely differentiating opinion &belief to make you more comfortable in your convictions) I'll gladly discount your opinion (personal convictions) into nothingness.

That should make you fweel better.

I mean I wouldn't want to make you uncomfortable and devalue your self worth by people here denigrating your strong beliefs and personal convictions.
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You've failed to pin a "non-belief- belief " on me and you've failed to make any point. Are you going for a strike out?
 
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You've failed to pin a "non-belief- belief " on me and you've failed to make any point. Are you going for a strike out?
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No I think it's quite clear after a hundred pages of you posting your opinion drivel(and claiming your non-belief is no belief BS);that you are too much of a pussy to admit any beliefs,or personal convictions about anything.

But hey that's just my opinion and certainly not a belief or personal conviction on my part.:D :p
 
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"The fact that some, not all by any means, of mathematics is useful in the physical world is coincidental."

So you know your "useful" mathematics is only useful in the physical world due to coincidence?

Don't mean to question your faith, just mean to illustrate the way in which people take things on faith in the same way theists take things on faith...

May I suggest you try to find a copy of G.H. Hardy's little book "A Mathematician's Apology."

Of course you may suggest it, and if at some point you understand something well enough not to refer to reading someone else and their thoughts, give it a shot...

"but of course it wasn't discovered, it was invented."

Man never invented logical or mathematical relationships, he just discovered what was already in non physical existence...

Laws of nature precede expression or manifestations of matter and energy that present themselves according to those laws...

Potentiality forever will exist prior to actuality...unless you are one who believes some magic of something from nothing at all...
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Whatever.
 
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No I think it's quite clear after a hundred pages of you posting your opinion drivel(and claiming your non-belief is no belief BS);that you are too much of a pussy to admit any beliefs,or personal convictions about anything.

But hey that's just my opinion and certainly not a belief or personal conviction on my part.:D :p
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It 's reassuring you only have an opinion of what you understand about what I said, as apparently you seem to arrive at your religious convictions and belief trivially , without much if any attention to its absurdity and contradiction.

Going by your numerous insults, it seems to do little else but annoy you to hear there are people free from religious belief .
 
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