Reiterate : buy the dip

Quote from HolyGrail:

I think you are missing the point. When you trade what you see you are reacting to what the market is doing, not predicting where the market will go.

Edit: Right now the market isn't doing anything because it is closed. All you can do with a closed market is predict. An open market does not require prediction.

To react you have to predict, even with an open market. You know what the market has done but to trade you have to make a prediction about what it will do next. Your mind might be acting very quickly but you're still predicting whether the market is going up or down in the next minute, hour, day, week or whatever your timeframe is.
 
Quote from notouch:

To react you have to predict, even with an open market. You know what the market has done but to trade you have to make a prediction about what it will do next. Your mind might be acting very quickly but you're still predicting whether the market is going up or down in the next minute, hour, day, week or whatever your timeframe is.

NO, I am not predicting. I am playing probablilities of price action based on past experiences. That is a reaction, not a prediction. Obviously I would not take the trade if I thought I would be unsuccessful, so yes, I am predicting a successful termination of the trade, but I am not predicting a number at which the trade will be terminated. I let the market tell me that.
 
To me, the MARKET is deciding which way it will go and my past experiences have TAUGHT me what to do. I've done NOTHING to predict anything, the market has done all the work for me. It has decided where it will go and I try and make money by reacting.

I know what you are trying to say but the idea of predicting and reacting are different, regardless of the wording you want to use.

Quote from notouch:

To react you have to predict, even with an open market. You know what the market has done but to trade you have to make a prediction about what it will do next. Your mind might be acting very quickly but you're still predicting whether the market is going up or down in the next minute, hour, day, week or whatever your timeframe is.
 
You can use as many euphemisms as you like but you're predicting the direction of the market just as much as the people you criticise. No one claims to be able to predict an exact market top or bottom but are simply using their knowledge and experience to say it's more likely to go up or down and make a trade on that basis. Of course you need to do more than predict - you need to manage risk - but no one can trade without predicting market direction (esoteric option strategies aside).
 
Quote from HolyGrail:

I trade what I see, not what I predict.

This statement should be abolished from ET... its the most meaningless BS I've seen.

When you put a trade in (whether with a stop or not), you are making a prediction.

Its one big f*ing contradiction.
 
Quote from HolyGrail:

NO, I am not predicting. I am playing probablilities of price action based on past experiences. That is a reaction, not a prediction. Obviously I would not take the trade if I thought I would be unsuccessful, so yes, I am predicting a successful termination of the trade, but I am not predicting a number at which the trade will be terminated. I let the market tell me that.

you seem to 'need to be right' here... how does that work for you?

:)
 
Quote from scriabinop23:

This statement should be abolished from ET... its the most meaningless BS I've seen.

When you put a trade in (whether with a stop or not), you are making a prediction.

Its one big f*ing contradiction.

I swear, some people just don't get it. Yes, I predict success with every trade I make. I don't say ES is going to 1500 in the next three sessions. I enter the trade and I analyze where I am bar by bar. No prediction whatsoever other than hitting the buy or sell button.
 
Quote from scriabinop23:

you seem to 'need to be right' here... how does that work for you?

:)

I don't "need" to be anything. I just know when you understand price action there is no need to predict. When you learn that you will see what I mean.
 
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