Regulators probing legendary hedge fund’s secret trading code

Although if you read the article regulators actually aren't asking to see Renn's code, they're just responding to a rulemaking proceeding. Talk about a misleading headline....and a bunch of you happy to be misled.

Specifically: “The CFTC has not made any inquiries or requests related to the source code of Renaissance Technologies,” Erica Elliott Richardson, of the CFTC, said in an email.

I didn't think any government bodies would have any right to access any proprietary technology developed by any private companies.
 
Although if you read the article regulators actually aren't asking to see Renn's code, they're just responding to a rulemaking proceeding. Talk about a misleading headline....and a bunch of you happy to be misled.
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Typical fake news.Sorta like ''Stocks Followed TGT Down; fake news''LOL . NOT even close;as if all the other companys are run as bad as TGT, or JCP.....LOL
 
Apparently no one remembers what happened to LTCM when they opened they book.
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Actually,birzos i did not remember it that way. You maybe right ?? I remembered it the smartest guys in the room, used/kept using insane leverage + Fed arm twisted private sector liquidation/fix . And well the FED should.
I wish JPM would have offered BSC[BEAR] more than $2 @ share but like JPM CEO Diamond said ''you dont pay Up for a house on fire ''unquote Did raise the bid a bit later LOL
 
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Actually,birzos i did not remember it that way. You maybe right ?? I remembered it the smartest guys in the room, used/kept using insane leverage + Fed arm twisted private sector liquidation/fix . And well the FED should.
I wish JPM would have offered BSC[BEAR] more than $2 @ share but like JPM CEO Diamond said ''you dont pay Up for a house on fire ''unquote Did raise the bid a bit later LOL

Yes LTCM over leveraged on technicals and were burnt by human nature but that's not the point, they had to open their books and then the frontrunning started. Life is very simple, if you don't keep it closed someone else will make sure that they benefit from it at your expense. So then either RenTec are frontrunning (most HFTs do), the regulators want to keep their jobs, someone wants their code. When the information goes public it's at least two of them!
 
Yes LTCM over leveraged on technicals and were burnt by human nature but that's not the point, they had to open their books and then the frontrunning started. Life is very simple, if you don't keep it closed someone else will make sure that they benefit from it at your expense. So then either RenTec are frontrunning (most HFTs do), the regulators want to keep their jobs, someone wants their code. When the information goes public it's at least two of them!
What does "over leveraged on technicals" actually mean?
 
What does "over leveraged on technicals" actually mean?
My guess is that they fully believed in their technical analysis without enough regard for human nature and the random nature of the market when you have so many participants. Its like a retail trader convinced that something has to happen because of how perfectly set up the move is, but then of course something else happens.

Sounds like for LTCM, the opposite of what was supposed to happen actually happened if someone else found out what these guys were doing. I think its kind of like during WWII after the allies were able to crack codes and track the U-boat movements. They always knew where they were going to be, even though the U-Boats had no idea their position locations were compromised.
 
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My guess is that they fully believed in their technical analysis without enough regard for human nature and the random nature of the market when you have so many participants. Its like a retail trader convinced that something has to happen because of how perfectly set up the move is, but then of course something else happens.

Sounds like for LTCM, the opposite of what was supposed to happen actually happened if someone else found out what these guys were doing. I think its kind of like during WWII after the alies were able to crack codes and track the U-boat movements. They always knew where they were going to be, even though the U-Boats had no idea their positions locations were compromised.
Can you not read? The Russian financial crisis happened. It had absolutely nothing to do with someone getting access to their "secret sauce".

For the no wild-eyed conspiracy types, they were essentially arbing a spread on fixed income that gave a very reliable but minute profit. They levered it up to turn that into a reliable but larger profit. Then suddenly the Russian financial crisis caused a hiccup that required them to post more margin than they had, so they had to sell out at firesale prices. They were still right, eventually it went back to small and reliable, they just weren't robust to the black swans. Or as they say they were picking up nickels in front of a steam roller.
 
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