Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

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Originally posted by daniel_m


actually stu, i think thunderbolt's actually right for once. i'd have to say that a big reason the world is as good as it is today (and it is good) is precisely because man has increasingly chosen to shun the crazy world of religion.
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Now it all makes sense to me. You feel that this world is "good" in its present condition. Anyone who feels that way is certainly without reason.
 
Originally posted by stu
dan, you are right

I am right (I must be 'cause thunder said so)

Thunder is wrong ( he must be 'cause I said so)

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So, when I hear these absurdities coming from people, I turn to the word for confirmation

I was hasty by not making reference to the quote, my attempt was to say he was wrong to turn to his so called word in that way, as there are better and truer things than a fanatical devotion to spoon food.

It's a persistent affliction that religious indoctrination causes to peoples personality that makes them unable to debate sensibly or coherently, which I think thunder and others have displayed so clearly here.
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Yeah, and you are so articulate:confused:
 
Compared to what the world was like when RELGION ruled it
(The Dark Ages), we are in paradise.


peace

axeman



Originally posted by thunderbolt


Now it all makes sense to me. You feel that this world is "good" in its present condition. Anyone who feels that way is certainly without reason.
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Originally posted by thunderbolt


Now it all makes sense to me. You feel that this world is "good" in its present condition. Anyone who feels that way is certainly without reason.
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well yeah, i do "feel" that the world is a great place in its present condition, but not only do i "feel" it, i think that i'm backed up by all sorts of evidence. so i am most certainly NOT without reason.

we can compare the world to how we THINK it should be, which normally proves to be an exercise in futility. or we can compare it to how it has been in the past. therefore, since you seem to think the world ISN'T good in its present condition, name ONE period in history where it has been better (for mankind)?
 
thunder and the ministered unto,

You're in a loop which you seem unable to extract yourself from.

The world could be perfect in every way but it couldn't please your confused thoughts or your god's, because things HAVE to be wrong in order that you can try to justify your religious nonsense.
All you have is a fraudulent message constructed from ignorance and fear, perpertrated by those who seek recognition or power and followed by those gullible enough to listen.The weaning away over the generations (all too slowly) from the childish untruths that are still put about by fervid religion, is one thing that makes the world a good place.

Proper knowledge and understanding willl be achieved and is closer than ever,but has nothing to do with your gods.

In the meantime a futile and meaningless word is enough for you.
Now that is a world which isn't good and a world which is more certainly without reason.
 
Originally posted by daniel_m


well yeah, i do "feel" that the world is a great place in its present condition, but not only do i "feel" it, i think that i'm backed up by all sorts of evidence. so i am most certainly NOT without reason.

we can compare the world to how we THINK it should be, which normally proves to be an exercise in futility. or we can compare it to how it has been in the past. therefore, since you seem to think the world ISN'T good in its present condition, name ONE period in history where it has been better (for mankind)?
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When Adam and Eve walked the earth prior to the fall. That's how we were intended to live and exist. All the mess afterwards, including today, can be classified as "going against the grain". Nonetheless, your feelings about this great world explains everything to me in terms of your logic--or lack thereof.

BOLT :cool:
 
''When RELIGION ruled it [the world] the dark ages.'' In fairness Axeman got a good sharp quote there. Might be memory ;true any way.
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The big question-Any one honest enough admit there is a difference between GOLD and fools gold???

There is a big difference between vain religion and a relationship.Would say much of the ''dark ages '' was vain religion[James 1;26,Gods WORD]

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