Regarding the Existence or Absence of God
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Originally posted by stu
you'll notice that the delusional think they can close threads which only moderators can
Stu, I was going to say the exact same thing...he posted his "closed thread" thing while I wasn't looking.
Well, it apparently is closed for him, which actually may open it for a voice of reason that can argue his (Tbolt's) side with REASON instead of dogma. Either way, my friend Thunderbolt has accomplished only to discredit himself. He could have given thoughtful responses or thoughtful arguments. I know that they must exist. A billion Christians can't all be so obtuse. But Thunderbolt could only preach and not debate. He would answer a question with a biblical quote that addressed less than nothing, and proved even less (how is it possible to surpass less than nothing? The "miracle" of Thunderbolt).
And the few times he got away from quoting the bible, he got weaker still. The "calendar" argument for proving the life of Jesus is still making me laugh.
Peace to all,
Rs7
rs7 I agree with your feelings I feel the same . A good debate requires people to converse properly. I am glad if Thunderbolt gets a warm fuzzy feeling ( a bit like wetting his pants) it's the determinate "this is the Truth" I cannot accept (thats the part when he'll experience the downside of having wet his pants)
I wish him well though as I do everyone, 'cause none has the definitive answer and that's the point and it's the exciting, stimulating bit - trying to find out
Originally posted by thunderbolt
Debating with you is like using Ameritrade as my direct access broker.
So you use e-trade instead??
Wow, then you must REALLY have looked like a jackass with the other "bunch."
Actually, if you've been following this thread throughout, there have been regular questions and discussions over the different definitions of God.
Originally posted by daniel_m
I think YOU, sir, are the one that needs to think REAL HARD. And more than that, learn to face facts. The story of jesus was around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS before he was supposed to have lived, only they didn't call him jesus, they called him other names. Again, don't you find it disturbing that there is no extra-biblical evidence that supports the idea that a man called jesus actually ever lived?
Take your own advice and research his life - you'll find he never had one.
BTW, I'll go toe-toe with you on the 'teachings' of jesus. He had no original material, he just copied things that other people had already said.(obviously -since he never existed!) Hardly insipirational. The only context that any of the crap jesus talked makes sense in was that the world was gonna end real soon and the 'kingdom of god' would be coming, so you'd better repent. THAT is what he was all about.
Yet, 2000 years later, the world is still kicking..in fact it's going better than ever.
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gentlemen,
some people seem to have an inate knowledge of a creator and other do not have this knowledge. those who do not posess the "knowledge" believe that those who do are foolish. my question is can anything convince a skeptic that there is a creator ?? or on a personal note--what would it take to convince you ?? axe, dan, gg ---- if one of you guys had an encounter with a god type entity would you just chock it up as self delusion??
as heidegger states, "cast in matter, alone in the universe" what a sorry state for mankind.
all the best,
surf
some people seem to have an inate knowledge of a creator and other do not have this knowledge. those who do not posess the "knowledge" believe that those who do are foolish. my question is can anything convince a skeptic that there is a creator ?? or on a personal note--what would it take to convince you ?? axe, dan, gg ---- if one of you guys had an encounter with a god type entity would you just chock it up as self delusion??
as heidegger states, "cast in matter, alone in the universe" what a sorry state for mankind.
all the best,
surf
Originally posted by marketsurfer
gentlemen,
some people seem to have an inate knowledge of a creator and other do not have this knowledge. those who do not posess the "knowledge" believe that those who do are foolish. my question is can anything convince a skeptic that there is a creator ?? or on a personal note--what would it take to convince you ?? axe, dan, gg ---- if one of you guys had an encounter with a god type entity would you just chock it up as self delusion??
as heidegger states, "cast in matter, alone in the universe" what a sorry state for mankind.
all the best,
surf
the same can be said of unicorns -some people seem to have an inate knowledge of unicorns and other do not have this knowledge. those who do not posess the "knowledge" believe that those who do are foolish. my question is can anything convince a skeptic that there is a unicorn ?? ahhh, yes there is something that you can do .... PRODUCE ONE!
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Actually, I don't think there could be much confusion about which god I was talking about.
If you have a different god and that one is kind and caring then good for you. I 've no right to disaprove of anyone having their own god and their beliefs to help them through the day, if that's what they need. I object to being TOLD that I have to accept false assertions (which assertions after all are created by man in any case) and if I don't follow their gods, or should I dare to question or put the opposite view, then I become some kind of lost soul or despotic godless creature.
I would guess a lot of folks would be disapointed to see their god portrayed as a cruel and intimidating deity, as the Bible does - I was. Any god worth its salt should know it is an impossible dichotomy to expect free minded intelligent sentient beings to blindly and unquestioningly accept a book, written by humans and full of glaring contradictions, to be a message from "him".
So it's a simple step from there to create one that just has the friendly bits associated to it.
But that's a different god and I would guess there are different gods created every day, which are able to cover over the flaws of a previous one. They reside in peoples' minds and I think that's fine as long as they are not used as an excuse for feeling righteous and instructing everyone else they shall accept that as the truth.
"Show me your Unicorn" (copyright FPC 2002) and debate the likelihood of its existence.
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Will someone tell Thunderbolt he closed this thread and therefor he should not be able to read it, let alone post on it
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Also he should stop watching those Buzz Lightyear videos
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