Regarding the Existence or Absence of God II

marketsurfer · Oct 21, 2002

i agree, stu. religion of any kind should not be taught in public schools. however, i still revert to my basic premise that evolution is a theory and should be taught as such.

best,

surf

thunderbolt · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by daniel_m
discovery channel. what a crock of shit.

if they actually cared to examine the historical evidence (and the lack thereof), it is impossible to come to any other rational conclusion other than that jesus never existed.

"Jesus did have a number of disagreements with the extremists of Judaism at the time. The path he charts is one of a new and more open understanding of the laws of Jewish life," said Eric Meyers, professor of Judaic studies at Duke University, another consulting scholar.

how? how the fuck could jesus have had disagreements with extremists if he never existed??? unbelievable what passes for "documentaries" these days. at the very least an admission should be made that the existance of jesus should not be accepted as axiomatic, but is an open question. how about some intellectual honesty folks?

Dude, stop while you're ahead. The more you post, the more ridiculous you sound. Jesus existed and everyone but the blind knows it. So go smoke a pipe with your professor(s) and tell each other how smart you are. This dude is off his rocker...

BOLT

thunderbolt · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by StreetWizard

Carl Sagan, âThe persistence of bamboozleâ

âOne of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weâve been bamboozled long enough we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Weâre no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge even to ourselves that weâve been so credulous. So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.â

Sagan was a sad case.

MrDinky · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by daniel_m

(you might wanna come to infidels.org, where the big boys play, not this petty ET crap) i think i have a pretty good idea of what i'm talking about, and of the "evidence" the christian brings to the table.

Heh, from infidels.org? Kind of like preaching to the converted, don't you think?

thunderbolt · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by daniel_m

i beg to differ. there are COPIOUS amounts of doubt as to the existance of the man.

and furthermore, even if the man did exist, doubting his divinity is by no means "pointless", it is the right and honorable thing to do.

of course, the twisted god of christianity doesn't see it that way. but, what the hell, he's as fake as they come too.

EDIT. just read that baloney you site as "evidence". buddy, i have a feeling you're very new to all this, so i highly doubt you'll be able to show me something that i haven't seen refuted a thousand times. i cannot say with absolute certainty that such a man never existed, but the weight of evidence against it is absolutely overwhelming, which is why i say the only rational conclusion is to assume he never did.

You've just convinced yourself that Jesus didn't exist, but a lie you're living.

StreetWizard · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by thunderbolt

Sagan was a sad case.

Yes, I can see you are easily three times his intellect.

I've read Sagan's but where's your work published, I'd like to read it.

max401 · Oct 21, 2002

Hey, this debate could escalate right into a PC vs. Mac "discussion."

rs7 · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by thunderbolt

Jesus existed and everyone but the blind knows it.

Blind people are not allowed to know Jesus? I thought he was the son of an equal opportunity God?

This is one more of Tbolts more ridiculous statements. Tbolt, you should have quit after the "calendar is proof" argument. You are getting weaker and weaker.

Does the word "fanatic" mean anything to you?

Whether Jesus existed as a man can be argued forever. There is no proof one way or the other. So why bother? And really, what difference does it make? If you believe in "His" teachings, and live your life according to "His" wishes, then what possible difference does it make if he was an historical figure or not?

StreetWizard · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by max401
Hey, this debate could escalate right into a PC vs. Mac "discussion."

Personally I'd welcome a PC vs Mac debate ..I have no experience with the Mac but I do have lots of frustrations with the PC

Is the Mac "better" than the PC?

bungrider · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by StreetWizard
Is the Mac "better" than the PC?

Nope. They're of such poor design that after almost 20years of BS they had to pay another company to write an OS that was stable...

Just my take. I don't really care for microsoft either (and you have to give apple credit for designing windows, which microsoft essentially stole from them and kept because some judge was too stupid to see what they had done).