Regarding the Debate

[Yannis]

A Valid Perspective

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[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Facts say that democrats like balanced or near balanced budgets

That's news to me, but the only one I'm really concerned about is the democrat in the WH NOW.

Facts say Democrats are anti war.Obama got the nomination because he was against Iraq...

Quote from AK Forty Seven:
05-07-11 08:40 PM
I knew long ago Obama was an aggressive warmonger...

democrats are against the patriot act,homeland security etc,like Paul

If they really opposed it why didn't they abolish this stuff when they had the WH and congress in their back pocket. I'll answer for you, they're not opposed.

There are to many things that democrats and Paul have in common to believe that only 10 % of democrats would vote for him

And yet the poll/facts I posted dramatically say otherwise.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Facts say that democrats like balanced or near balanced budgets ,the last 2 presidents who did that were Clinton and Carter,democrats

Bill Clinton didn't balence the budget, the republican congress did, they write the budget, not the President.

Facts say Democrats are anti war.Obama got the nomination because he was against Iraq and Hilary supported it .Democrats want all the wars to end now,a Ron Paul position.Clinton and Carter also kept us out of major wars

WHAT!?!?!!?!? Almost every War in history has been started by democrats or led us into war. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Somalia, now we have Libya, Yemen, possibly Syria and the doubling down of Afghanistan.


democrats are against the patriot act,homeland security etc,like Paul

Come again? Dude, your brother in Washington just renewed the patriot act and actually added more powers to it and Pelosi signed that bill with a big fat smile on her face.


Paul wants drugs legalized,so do many democrats especially the pot heads and hippies .Ron Paul has taken a strong position against harsh drug sentences ,a big issue in the black community

Excuse me what? Obama has increased spending on the war on drugs and made it very clear he will not support legalization. No democratic president has supported legalization.

There are to many things that democrats and Paul have in common to believe that only 10 % of democrats would vote for him

Dude, go back to class. You need to make a distinction here between democratic "voters" and democratic "officials". I'll give you the fact that many on the left support these things as voters, but almost none of your elected democratic officials do.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Maverick74:

Dude, go back to class. You need to make a distinction here between democratic "voters" and democratic "officials".

Maybe you should go back to class.I thought it was clear that I was arguing that some democratic voters would support Paul,not democratic officials

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Maybe you should go back to class.I thought it was clear that I was arguing that some democratic voters would support Paul...

Some of them would, just under 10% of them.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Maybe you should go back to class.I thought it was clear that I was arguing that some democratic voters would support Paul,not democratic officials

Yes but your statement reflected what you thought demcorats were doing. And my point was that is not what they have done over the last 100 years.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Lucrum:

That's news to me, but the only one I'm really concerned about is the democrat in the WH NOW.




If they really opposed it why didn't they abolish this stuff when they had the WH and congress in their back pocket. I'll answer for you, they're not opposed.

And yet the poll/facts I posted dramatically say otherwise.

1.So are democratic voters.We want the wars to end but no republicans other then Paul is promising to immediately end the wars so its not like the anti war voters would consider any republican but Paul.Democratic voters also know that it was a republican who started the wars

When I said I knew Obama was a warmonger,I was referring to after he became president.


2.Democratic voters are against the patriot act etc,but politicians don't always do what the voters who voted them into office wants them to do


3.Your poll is flawed.A democrat can be considered a libertarian or independent.You consider me a democrat,yet I just told you I would vote for Paul over Obama

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Maverick74:

Yes but your statement reflected what you thought demcorats were doing. And my point was that is not what they have done over the last 100 years.

100 years is to far.Clinton,Carter and JFK were more anti war,fiscally responsible and socially liberal then republican presidents of the past 50 years

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

100 years is to far.Clinton,Carter and JFK were more anti war,fiscally responsible and socially liberal then republican presidents of the past 50 years

This simply isn't true.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Me and other democratic ET posters have said we would vote for Paul over Obama,whats so hard to understand ?

What other democratic ET posters have said that? I'm honestly curious here.