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October 6, 2008
SouthAmerica: On 10-17-05 I posted the following on this forum:
âThe point of my posting is that I would like to see Fortune magazineâs Carol J. Loomis write an article updating her article from 11 years ago.
Most people it doesnât realize, but the global derivatives market is on automatic pilot â the plane is flying very fast but to where?
Ms. Loomis has the understanding necessary to be able to write a very interesting article on that subject.
If it is not Refco, maybe will be something else that can trigger that derivatives meltdown.
Remember, the next stock market meltdown similar to the one in 1929, will start with a meltdown in the derivatives market, this time around â this is a market that is probably approaching the $ 150 trillion dollar mark today.â
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57218&perpage=6&pagenumber=2
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I sent an email to Fortune magazineâs Carol J. Loomis exactly 3 years ago and she sent me a note saying: "thank you for the encouragement about writing a follow up article about the derivatives market on Fortune Magazine."
It took exactly 3 years, but finally the current issue of Fortune Magazine dated October 13, 2008 one of the feature stories on this issue is âThe $ 55 Trillion Time Bombâ Will credit swaps blow up?
Quoting from this article: âThe financial crisis has put a spotlight on the obscure world of credit default swaps â which trade in a vast, unregulated market that most people havenât heard of and even fewer understand. Will this be the next disaster?
The article has a chart with a label âIs That Trillion With a âTâ?â
The chart says: âthe amount at stake in the CDS market is greater than the worldâs annual economic output.â
1) Credit default swaps (CDS) outstanding is $ 54.6 trillion
2) World GDP is $ 54.3 trillion
3) Value of all stocks on the NYSE + U.S. GDP + U.S. National debt = $ 50.5 trillion
â¦CDS are no mere artistâs fancy. In just over a decade these privately traded derivatives contracts ballooned from nothing into a $ 54. 6 trillion market. CDS are the fastest- growing major type of financial derivatives. More important, theyâve played a critical role in the unfolding financial crisis. First, by ostensibly providing âinsuranceâ on risky mortgage bonds, they encouraged and enabled reckless behavior during the housing bubble.âIf CDS had been taken out of play, companies wouldâve said, âI canât get this [risk] off my books,â âsays Michael Greenberger, a University of Maryland law professor and former director of trading and markets at the Commodity Futures Commission. âIf they couldnât keep passing the risk down the line, those guys wouldâve been stopped in their tracks. The ultimate assurance for issuing all this stuff was, âItâs insured.ââ
Second, terror at the potential for a financial Ebola virus radiating out from a failing institution and infecting dozens or hundreds of other companies â all linked to one another by CDS and other instruments â was a major reason that regulators stepped in to bail out Bear Stearns and buy out AIG, whose calamitous descent itself was triggered by losses on its CDS contracts.
And the fear of a CDS catastrophe still haunts the markets. For starters, nobody knows how federal intervention might ripple through this chain of contracts. And meanwhile, as weâll see, two fundamental aspects of the CDS market â that is unregulated, and that almost nothing is disclosed publicly â may be about to change. That adds even more uncertainty to the equation. âThe big problem is that here are all these public companies â banks and corporations â and no one really knows what exposure theyâve got from the CDS contracts, â says Frank Partnoy, a law professor at the University of San Diego and a former Morgan Stanley derivatives salesman who has been writing about the danger of CDS and their ilk for a decade. âThe really scary part is that we donât have a clue.â
â¦A CDS is just a contract: The âbuyerâ plunks down something that resembles a premium, and the âsellerâ agrees to make a specific payment if a particular event, such as a bond default, occurs.
â¦Because theyâre contracts rather than securities or insurance, CDS are easy to create: Often deals are done in a one-minute phone conversation or an instant message. Many technical aspects of CDS, such as the typical five-year term, have been standardized by the International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA). That only accelerates the process. You strike your deal, fill out some forms, and youâve got yourself a $ 5 million â or a $ 100 million â contract.
â¦There is at least one key difference between casino gambling and CDS trading: Gambling has strict government regulation.
..Thereâs another big difference between trading CDS and casino gambling. When you put $ 10 on black 22, youâre pretty sure the casino will pay off if you win. The CDS market offers no such assurance. One reason the market grew so quickly was that hedge funds poured in, sensing easy money. And not just big, well-established hedge funds but a lot of upstarts. So in some cases, giant financial institutions were counting on collecting money from institutions only slightly more solvent than your average minimart. The danger, of course, is that if a hedge fund suddenly has to pay off a lot of CDS, it will simply go out of business.
â¦This is not an academic concern. Wachovia and Citigroup are wrangling in court with a $ 50 million hedge fund located in the Channel Islands. The reason: A dispute over two $ 10 million credit default swaps covering some CDOs. The specifics of the spat arenât important. Whatâs most revealing is that these massive banks put their faith in a Lilliputian fund (in an inaccessible jurisdiction) that was risking 40 % of its capital for just two CDS. Can anyone imagine that Citi would,say, insure its headquarters building with a thinly capitalized, unregulated, offshore entity?
Thatâs one element of whatâs known as âcounterparty risk.â Hereâs another: In many cases, you donât even know who has the other side of your bet. Parties to the contract can, and do, transfer their side of the contract to third parties.
â¦Settlement has been sloppy, confirms Jamie Cawley of IDX Capital, a firm that brokers trades between big banksâ¦But even as recently as a year ago, Cawley says, so many trades were sitting around unfulfilled that âthere were $ 1 trillion worth of swaps that were unsettled among counterparts.â
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September 29, 2008
SouthAmerica: I knew all along that this $ 700 billion dollar Wall Street bailout was a massive fraud inflicted on the American taxpayer and nothing else.
These scam artists are selling this bailout to rescue the real estate market when in fact it is a case of bait and switch these scoundrels are going to use the bailout money in an effort to stop the derivatives market from a nuclear explosion â now that this financial weapon of financial destruction has blown into pieces people want to clean up the mushroom financial cloud with a $ 700 billion dollar bailout.
The only problem is that just God knows how many trillions of US dollars are going to be necessary to clean up the mess from this derivatives nuclear explosion.
The $ 3 trillion dollars Hedge Funds market is in the middle of this derivatives nuclear explosion.
The right question that people should be asking right now is the following:
The explosion on the derivatives market is going to be contained as the explosions in Hiroshima and Nagasaki or this derivatives nuclear explosion was the new version of the H-bomb that is 1,000 times more powerful.
I believe that they are going to find out that the explosion of the derivatives market is the latest version of the nuclear device.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2096076&highlight=hedge+funds#post2096076
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October 2, 2008
SouthAmerica: After watching Warren Buffett being interviewed on the Charlie Rose Show - I posted the following in the comments section of that TV show.
I just watched Charlie Rose interview Warren Buffet the richest man in the United States and he almost begged that Congress pass the Wall Street bailout.
Warren Buffet looked desperate about this Wall Street bailout, and he even suggested that Congress should give Treasure Secretary Paulson a blank check probably for him to use it trying to stop a meltdown in the derivatives market related to the tsunami of redemptions that is affecting the $ 3 trillion dollar Hedge Fund industry and these guys are loaded with all kinds of derivatives instruments â that is why Secretary Paulson want the authority to buy any type of financial instruments since he already placed the orders to buy $ 700 billion dollars of toxic derivatives that just God knows if these instruments are already completely worthless at this point â and the derivatives market an unregulated $ 62 trillion dollar financial weapon of mass destruction that has exploded â and nobody knows what kind of toxic fallout is underway that is going to infect the entire global financial system.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2100864&highlight=fallout#post2100864
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