I was only correcting you...you said its between the woman and her doctor....You conveniently left out the role of the State
Red States will force rape and incest victims to give birth,parental rights for rapists
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Role of the state at the point of viability, not at conception or not during the first trimester - which is what your Republican idols were talking about, something you don't want to discuss at all.
Conveniently.
You want the state to control conception?
How about the State also is now free to determine which people it forces vasectomies on.
The guy I was quoting wants to ban abortion at conception, what exactly is there to correct with your out of context 'correction'?
As you drill down into what people say about abortion, there are a lot of ambiguities about when they believe abortion should be legal. But there is a consensus that there ought to be at least some legal abortion in a first trimester.
And so what you’re seeing in Kansas is not only is this mobilizing Democrats and dividing Republicans, it also revealed that there are swing voters. There are people who are looking at these extreme pieces of legislation being passed in places like Oklahoma and Texas and now Indiana, and saying, “You know, I really don’t want that world. I am willing to take a position – even if I am pro-life – that doesn’t open the door to these kinds of things.”
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pro-lif...y-out-of-step-with-the-mainstream-electorate/
And so what you’re seeing in Kansas is not only is this mobilizing Democrats and dividing Republicans, it also revealed that there are swing voters. There are people who are looking at these extreme pieces of legislation being passed in places like Oklahoma and Texas and now Indiana, and saying, “You know, I really don’t want that world. I am willing to take a position – even if I am pro-life – that doesn’t open the door to these kinds of things.”
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pro-lif...y-out-of-step-with-the-mainstream-electorate/
Florida Court: "You're not mature enough to have an abortion, but you are mature enough to have a baby." Person seeking an abortion is 16.
This is why abortion is a privacy matter. A state just ruled a child is not mature enough to have an abortion and therefore is forcing childbirth on a child. People say things like “big government” whimsically but this is Big Government when the state is forcing a child to have a baby.
These guys really don’t understand this argument. To them it’s all about being able to tell a woman what to do with her reproductive health. Applying the same rules to male reproductive health doesn’t make sense because it’s all about women to them.
So effed up, the Florida court just de-legitimized itself. Let's see some swing votes up swell in this state.
Pro-life and Pro-choice are not mutually exclusive.
They missed the memo that being Dominant and being domineering are not the same.