Recovery Time between workouts

[Frederick Foresight]

Then that's quite impressive, especially the doubling of reps within a 2-month period.

When I was about your age, I worked out 3 times a week using an ABA BAB split, totaling 7.5+ hours weekly. The glamour of that much gym time has slowly since worn off, although I kept that volume and frequency until my mid-40s. Since then, I reduced my frequency to twice weekly whole body but still lots of volume and, more recently (5-6 years ago), returned to thrice weekly but whole body and less volume. I gradually reduced it to my present once weekly. And the idea of doing pull ups daily? Well, better you than me.

 

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I stopped the pull ups daily when i hit the 20 rep goal. It was just an experiment after reading the "Grease the groove" philosophy of training. It works for me and everyone i know that's tried.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I stopped the pull ups daily when i hit the 20 rep goal. It was just an experiment after reading the "Grease the groove" philosophy of training. It works for me and everyone i know that's tried.

For the sake of argument, does "greasing the groove" necessarily make you stronger or does it make you more adept at performing a specific movement?

 

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What is the difference is the question? If you can lift more weight or do more reps at the same body weight... you are stronger.

 

[rocketman987]

Recovery time b/w workouts is a lot longer than most would imagine.

a good rough rule of thumb, take your estimate X1.5. you are in the ball park, tweak from there

 

[Frederick Foresight]

What is the difference is the question? If you can lift more weight or do more reps at the same body weight... you are stronger.

Sure, but it's for a specific exercise. Would you necessarily be stronger on a different movement using the same muscles and, more specifically, more so than someone who favors HIT? I don't know. Maybe?

In any case, I thought you might find this dated article I just came across on "greasing the groove" (synaptic facilitation) of some interest:

https://www.cbass.com/Synaptic.htm

 

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Nice article thanks for sharing... basically its the same experience that I had too. With both the pull ups and the squats. Keep in mind that as soon as you stop the daily work you will lose the strength a bit. These are best to do as a peaking cycle or just for fun to set some P.R's.

I'll squat everyday again at some point when I live in a different time zone and can get a decent nights sleep. It was pretty fun and a great challenge both mentally and physically. I did it for a little over two weeks before meeting my GOAL 1 rep P.R for multiple singles.

The whole idea of the Squat everyday book is not to subscribe to any dogma but rather experiment with your body to see what works best for you.

 

[rocketman987]

Everyone thinks they are recovered, they aren't.

Less is more. hard & infrequent.

when you believe you are recovered, wait two more days..

you may be.

another two days, you is insurance against overtraining, and you won't atrophy.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Keep in mind that as soon as you stop the daily work you will lose the strength a bit. These are best to do as a peaking cycle or just for fun to set some P.R's.

Sounds a bit like a high maintenance relationship. I've sworn off of those. And I like to keep it simple, not worrying about cycles, periodization or whatever. I prefer to get the best bang for the buck even if it might not be "optimal." Efficiency, and all that. I've worked out for over 40 years, and I have no intention of (ever) quitting. But the idea of doing it every day has absolutely no draw for me.

I'll squat everyday again at some point when I live in a different time zone and can get a decent nights sleep.

I do breathing weighted pistol squats, at the end of which it takes me minutes just to get my breathing back to normal. (That was never the case when I did conventional squats - either pistol or barbell - or leg presses.) If I had to kill someone to get out of doing them every day, I'd consider it.

I'm glad you liked the article. Clarence Bass has numerous good articles on his web site and keeps up to date on the latest research in exercise and nutrition. It's worth a look every now and then.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Everyone thinks they are recovered, they aren't.

Less is more. hard & infrequent.

when you believe you are recovered, wait two more days..

you may be.

another two days, you is insurance against overtraining, and you won't atrophy.

Yeah, that's more my speed. It took me long enough to buy into it.