Recession is coming ? Take a hard look

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Lets take for a moment you are right and we are in recession.

What are we supposed to do? Sell all our stocks and start shorting the market like there is no tomorrow? I can do that, but that is very very risky. The market has shown exceptional resilience when it come to going down. Its a beast they cannot kill even with steely knives.
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No no. For very short term, stocks are long right here - not short.

You want a short? Oil. Tricky though.
 
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No no. For very short term, stocks are long right here - not short.

You want a short? Oil. Tricky though.
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I am long Healthcare, Fertilizers POT, MOS, AGU and short financials C, BAC, LEH, GS and retailers like SHLD, HD, LOW, TGT.
 
1. Feds are going to cut the rates in Jan 2008
2. Congress and Nancy Pelosi and Schumer are jumping up
3. White House is considering a stimulus package in Jan 2008

They did stiff like this in 2001 and it failed, stocks fell.

These moves signal that things a really bad, not good.
 
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1. Feds are going to cut the rates in Jan 2008
2. Congress and Nancy Pelosi and Schumer are jumping up
3. White House is considering a stimulus package in Jan 2008

They did stiff like this in 2001 and it failed, stocks fell.

These moves signal that things a really bad, not good.
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Why are you such a pessimist? Recession is not coming and the fear of recession itself is the seed that won't bring the market down.

One rate cut due any day in January and the shorts will be blown to peices.
 
Recessions end when you have clearing [of excess capacity, inventory etc]. You can have low interest rates for a long time without having clearing occurr. Japan is the obvious example.


Rate cuts/rate cut jawbomning are getting less and less effective with each application.
 
Quote from day7793:

Why are you such a pessimist? Recession is not coming and the fear of recession itself is the seed that won't bring the market down.

One rate cut due any day in January and the shorts will be blown to peices.
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You really have no clue bud. The game is OVER!!!

The question is not if the us is going into a recession. The us is already in a recession. It is going to get so much worse. The markets will get a bounce here and there but at anytime the DOW can go into a freefall.

So whats the question??? The real question is do we go into a depression??? Does it actually get worse then 1929???

The fed has one weapon that could be effective here in my opinion. What they really should be doing is not lowering rates at all!!! They should actually be raising them to fight inflation. However at this critical time they could not do that either without installing panic. The best thing they could do is just leave rates where they are. Yes the Dow would shed 500-1000 more points very quickly.

The point being the only way to save the us is to have a good cleansing. They need to install pain now to keep things from going into a major depression.

I highly highly doubt that will happen. Instead Bush and Bernake and friends will try to put more bandaids on things trying to keep the markets up while Bush is in power. That is the worst thing they can do, but they will try like usual I think.

Your comment about them lowering rates and crushing the shorts????

Bernake was chirping about lowering rates a few days ago. Immediately the market spiked up. Just a short while later the markets started to sell off. Basically the markets shoved it up Bernakes cornhole.

Rate cuts are useless now.

If they really care about Americans, then keep rates the same and start to slowly raise rates once the panic stops.

It wont happen. Only two words describes everything.

GAME OVER
 
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You really have no clue bud. The game is OVER!!!

The question is not if the us is going into a recession. The us is already in a recession. It is going to get so much worse. The markets will get a bounce here and there but at anytime the DOW can go into a freefall.

So whats the question??? The real question is do we go into a depression??? Does it actually get worse then 1929???

The fed has one weapon that could be effective here in my opinion. What they really should be doing is not lowering rates at all!!! They should actually be raising them to fight inflation. However at this critical time they could not do that either without installing panic. The best thing they could do is just leave rates where they are. Yes the Dow would shed 500-1000 more points very quickly.

The point being the only way to save the us is to have a good cleansing. They need to install pain now to keep things from going into a major depression.

I highly highly doubt that will happen. Instead Bush and Bernake and friends will try to put more bandaids on things trying to keep the markets up while Bush is in power. That is the worst thing they can do, but they will try like usual I think.

Your comment about them lowering rates and crushing the shorts????

Bernake was chirping about lowering rates a few days ago. Immediately the market spiked up. Just a short while later the markets started to sell off. Basically the markets shoved it up Bernakes cornhole.

Rate cuts are useless now.

If they really care about Americans, then keep rates the same and start to slowly raise rates once the panic stops.

It wont happen. Only two words describes everything.

GAME OVER
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Why don't you sneek back in your little Dracula hatch and we'll close the lid on you.
 
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Why don't you sneek back in your little Dracula hatch and we'll close the lid on you.
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lololol Dracula hatch, close the lid. I love that.

BUT...I do happen agree with "Dracula" in his post and I believe that he will be dragging Goldilocks down the hatch with him.
 
What goldilcks will learn is never trust the talking heads, unfortunately a sound rogering from the bears is required before the lesson sinks in.
 
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