Recent Graduate....want to work as a trader

Quote from OTCkrak:

the hairy, smelly, prick "chicago/wall st type" would pass a brick if they heard this..

they don't care... if you didnt come from a top 10-12.5 school, youre obviously an unsophisticated, state school redneck with a low standard of living. what could you possibly want to do with money from trading, buy a double wide?

im sure youre a smart guy but they dont take kindly to youre kind around them streets. they cant trust someone from your cloth managing large sums of money. they might have you estimate the volume on the exchange by taking a sq foot sample of the tickets on the floor by the bathroom.

if you want to succeed in the business you have to think like a douchebag and i feel you might be naive. read books on technical analysis and start to try coding some systems. after many years and hours in front of charts and data mining you might become profitable.

my advice is to work some bullshit monkey job and save up 50-100k(probably take you half a lifetime), the more the better. keep studying independently and learning to trade with a fractional fx account. dont waste your young adulthoop being a degenerate prop trader on a 5k account.. there are alot of loser prop traders that have been sucking for years just getting by on a mickey mouse account. if your gonna win in this business you need to start right with lots of equity.

companies like Optiver/ Shoenfeld/ Jane St/ will just throw your resume away. why hire you when they can hire a 3.8GPA MIT, Penn, Columbia, NYU, Berkeley, Chicago grad???

Hilarious post, but there is some wisdom in it I believe.
 
No I have never traded. In my final semester I took a class in derivatives (derivation of Black Scholes, monte carlo, the greeks) that is what sparked my interest in trading.

As I understand it market makers make their money on the bid ask spread. They try and keep their portfolios delta and gamma neutral. I would imagine some traders write programs that look for arbitrage situations.

In my mind trading is something that requires a lot of problem solving and analytical capabilites.

I don't want to go back to school any time soon, and engineering isn't really my thing.
 
Quote from OTCkrak:





my advice is to work some bullshit monkey job and save up 50-100k(probably take you half a lifetime), the more the better. keep studying independently and learning to trade with a fractional fx account. dont waste your young adulthoop being a degenerate prop trader on a 5k account.. there are alot of loser prop traders that have been sucking for years just getting by on a mickey mouse account. if your gonna win in this business you need to start right with lots of equity.

This part of your comment suggests that I should disregard your post entirely.

But, what the hell.....

Quote from OTCkrak:



companies like Optiver/ Shoenfeld/ Jane St/ will just throw your resume away. why hire you when they can hire a 3.8GPA MIT, Penn, Columbia, NYU, Berkeley, Chicago grad???

As I understand it most companies give an IQ type test before the hiring process. A test that asks you to do speed arithmetic, sequences, and some general IQ questions. Why wouldn't they have some unsophisticated rednecks tale their damn test, as they might be smarter then your MIT, Penn,..etc grad. Some pretty stupid people go to Harvard...I have met them. Also, isnt NYU a pretty shitty UG institution?
 
Quote from athlonmank8:

Have you ever traded?

I'm a newbie trader that started in 1973 as a kid in high school, bought a seat in 1978 and traded wheat as a local. Been doing it ever since but migrated to the screen.
 
Look for internships at trading institutions and then go back to school to get one of those internship's...then reapply at those original firms that you've mentioned along with applying at a new list of firms you've discovered at the internship.

Take any job even if it's being a lacky for some trader that pays you just enough money to keep from starving. My point is that you should take anything related to trading even if you consider it to be a shitty job because you can use it at a later date to move on to greener grass.

Mark
 
Quote from NihabaAshi:

Look for internships at trading institutions and then go back to school to get one of those internship's...then reapply at those original firms that you've mentioned along with applying at a new list of firms you've discovered at the internship.

Take any job even if it's being a lacky for some trader that pays you just enough money to keep from starving. My point is that you should take anything related to trading even if you consider it to be a shitty job because you can use it at a later date to move on to greener grass.

Mark

I have started applying to summer internships. Any places that you would suggest.

I have been applying exclusively to trader trainee/junior trader postions. Is there another type of job posting that I should be looking at?
 
Why would you want to trade. It's the shittiest job in the world.


Quote from NeedaUserName:

I have started applying to summer internships. Any places that you would suggest.

I have been applying exclusively to trader trainee/junior trader postions. Is there another type of job posting that I should be looking at?
 
Quote from fogut:

Why ?

well, at financial institutions, traders are being replaced with algorithmic trading. And they can put in constant 12 hour days. And a lot of traders were canned after the financial collapse.

At home, 99% of traders probably lose some to a lot of their money, including a few thousand hours of time.

It is something to be avoided, unless the person for some reason has a rare gift or rare opportunity.
 
Quote from TraderZones:

At home, 99% of traders probably lose some to a lot of their money, including a few thousand hours of time.

coming from someone with +5000 posts, 10 per day
 
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