Reality based coin-tosser method that beats 95% of traders in the world.

Quote from TheAngryHermit:


haha

Despite the fact that I picked a picture where the strategy obviously profited, I'm making a legitimate point.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

I've enlarged and annotated the short pattern for you so you can see how a person annotates a trend using our symbols. they are not unsual. In fact I am often accused of using stuff invented by younger people than me who started using what I use after I began. they are all noteworthy, since they are more recent vendors and I never left the ranks of amateurs as defined by NFA when it was created after I began trading.

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Hi Jack - please bridge this to a coin toss
Please use words with 2 syllables or less
thanks
 
Quote from TheAngryHermit:

That stategy failed three times and worked once on the chart you posted. :eek:
You'd be better off having a beggar flip a coin for you. :D

Actually, if you read my "rules" for the strategy, entry is made when the pullback is within 5 tics of the average at close. That rules out the first 2 times you see entry points.

Say we scratch the 5 tic rule and just stick to the part where we enter at the end of the day... 2 profits and 1 small loss.

I know its fun to try to debunk a strategy but the stats I worked out in excel say otherwise.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

Why are you people killing what was an interesting thread by responding to and talking about Hershey?

:(

All you accomplish is looking as ridiculous as him.
Au contraire, Whisky opened the door on his thread ... after that, it was all downhill.


Whatever, have fun. :p
 
Quote from Badoit:

Change the order entry time to 15:00 GMT (10:00 EST).

Instead of telling the homeless guy to flip the coin, tell him to go and buy the WSJ first thing in the morning - read it - and then say whether he thinks the market will be going up or down.

Position yourself at 10:00 accordingly.

These are the rules, follow them.

You will have to prove to yourself and others that your suggestions bring in at least 1 tic per day on average extra profit over the original method rules.
 
Quote from Mike805:

Yeah, I almost feel bad for the guy...

Not really though. :D Every freakin' one of his posts is about TZ's own failures...

What cracks me up is that Wolinsky was asking $5mil for a pseudo pairs "system" with -33% DD and ZERO money made in the last 12 months. Hey Beau, I'll sell you this system for 100k... wait, nah, I'll make you great deal - $99k and its all yours. I'll even throw in a quarter if you buy in the next 24 hours? What d'ya think?

LOL...

LMAZO
 
Quote from rolextrader:

So, how's your logical improvement going?

Chaotically improving amidst a lot of noise. I like chaos. It brings out a LOT of fools, liars, and suckers.

It also brings out the talented. See Mike's posts.
 
Quote from Mike805:

Literally took about 30 seconds. I remember playing around with these concepts many years ago. Got bored though.

Anyhow, don't tell TraderZones or Bwolinsky as they'll try to sell this system on C2 :D

Edit: Actually if you assume $30/round trip in transaction costs (12.5 x 2 for slippage and 5 for commiss) then we get 962 trades *$30 = $28.8k in slippage and commissions.

The system is net profitable by $44.8k-$28.8k = $15.9k.

Mike: Let's try to push this improvement of yours a little further. Please consider:

1-Using a symmetrical method that would take the exactly opposite position on entry than your method, and exit SOMEWHERE else in time. This would cut risk substantially and also cut comms and slip for the entry.

2-An exponential compounder/sizer for your suggestion as is. Ignore comms and slippage for now, just to get pumped up.

See if you can come up with any of the above 2 considerations (or both) in any order, and draw an equity curve with and without the improvements, for record purposes.

Only do this if you really want to.
 
Quote from rolextrader:

The answer is NONE because the casino would change the payout to keep the game at a negative expectancy for the player.

Thorp made a lot of money with this roulette approach, and a similar one applied to blackjack, before going to Wall Street to make even more millions. The payouts have not changed much, except for blackjack.
 
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