perhaps you are the only sane person in your zip code??Quote from jasonjm:
Hey all... I moved to los angeles in 2003
So I finally got my life in a groove and decided maybe now I should look at buying a house for the first time
So i first thing i did was went to a financial calculator, and worked out how much I should spend on a house if I was sane.... which I am
so i put in my income of 200k, put in i was willing to put in 200k for a downpayment, and it said I should buy a house that costs NO more than
$783 000
now i know that very few people in my area earn what I earn and even less have 200k for a downpayment
I dont even think a house exists in my zip code for 783 000 (zip code 90025) - and this is not a bel air zip code BTW. And BTW I dont consider anything less than 3 bedrooms, 2000 sqft+ and decent condition a house.
I just dont get it, if i cant afford a house, who the hell can in my zip?
this is just retarded
=============Quote from Pabst:
Bravo. ..his board is hilarious. Guy's are pissed because the most DESIRABLE locales in America cost a left-lung for a nice SFO. Jeez. The whole nation isn't NYC, West L.A., Tahoe, San Diego or even Miami (which is CHEAP to California). Next there will be a thread "Gosh how can a normal working guy ever afford to live in a penthouse on Waikiki Beach?"
There's DOZENS of cities, MAJOR LEAGUE cities where one can buy RE on the cheap. Does anyone ever hear of Milwaukee, Cleveland, Pittsburgh or St.Louis as "bubbles." Those cities have seen ZERO appreciation. I'm sure many ET'ers live in places like that and enjoy great homes with good schools or if single know of neat places to hangout with normal, grounded people.
WTF is so great about Brooklyn, NY? WAGES! So if you want to earn 3x in NYC for doing some shit litigation work or trying to make partner at Lehman then be prepared to enter a housing market that demands 3x Utica. If you want to live in LaJolla next to some guy who unloaded CMGI in March of 2000 then you also better be holding something fungible for paradise. If you think 750k on the Westside should buy a mansion then realize you're not just competing against Jennifer Aniston but the key grip on some NBC sit-com who's making 6k a week during season.
Quote from hapaboy:
Honolulu - average price around $630K, and that will get nothing you folks on the mainland would call a "nice place," at least not one where you won't have to spend a couple of hours in traffic each day going to and from work.
A friend of mine has a home in Phoenix he bought recently for around $245K that's around 2500 square feet (living area), 4 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, big yard, jacuzzi, etc. Same place here would easily go for $700K if not 750K...
Houses are on the market longer now, I think almost two months on average, but the prices keep creeping up.
Seems we're lagging behind the mainland when it comes to housing trends.
"The price of paradise" has been our mantra, but the price is getting far, far beyond the average person's means...
Quote from hapaboy:
"The price of paradise" has been our mantra, but the price is getting far, far beyond the average person's means...
Quote from Pabst:
And what makes you think "average" folks deserve paradise?
I'm not trying to sound like a prick. Least of all to you.
But those who lament that San Diego is "expensive" don't understand markets. EVERYONE would like to live in S.D. or Honolulu or Pacific Palisades. Thus "market forces" provide strong bids. Milwaukee? Not on many "wish" lists. That's life........