Quote from OldTrader:
First, I know you all want to know what the #2 group on the NYSE was today.
Today TOL closed at $66.02. That's a gain of $$28.05 per share or 73.9% in approximately 5 months.
Finally, an update on the 10 Year T-Note rates for those who are expecting higher rates.
The funny thing is, I agree with both sides of this argument. That just goes to show that y'all are completely talking past each other.
Yes, real estate is a classic bubble right now. There is so much risk, so much downside, so little upside, the fundamentals couldn't be stacked up any higher against real estate. The arguments have been beaten to death, I'm not going to rehash them, just state my personal belief that within one year, US real estate valuations in most markets will have dropped double digit percentages from where they are today.
Yet like any bubble, it keeps rising till it pops. The faster the rise, the bigger the pop. I think it's absurd, a joke, that anyone would try to argue against the existence of a macro bubble by pointing at continuing asset inflation. That's what a bubble is! Have we forgotten so soon? It's hasn't been even five years.
Still, this is Elite Trader, not Elite Investor, and momentum is the bread and butter of trading. So, you're right, trade the momentum, and watch for the top. Maybe you can time it, maybe not. That's the spice of life.
I've put my money where my mouth is. I have been holding TOL for a few months, NVR, some other homebuilders over the last year, but as the pressure on long term rates builds, I've been stocking up on ICF and FNM puts. I live in California, and I've been happily renting, waiting for valuations I can live with. Sure, I missed the asset inflation, but I can also sleep at night. If I owned a house, I'd be selling it right now.
Martin