Real Americans ONLY

I bet there is someone out there who has something crazy like 10 legal citizenships.

I would guess 5 or 6 is probably possible pretty easily depending on your family history etc...

1 - Father's citizenship
1 - Mother's citizenship
1 - Country born in
1 - Country grown up in assuming parents moved after your birth
1 - Your wife's citizenship
1 - Country you move to for work purposes

6 - Easy enough to achieve depending on only a couple factors.
 
Quote from marine:

you can never truly relinquish your citizenship.
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Certainly one can relinquish it in a sufficient manner as to not having to worry about the US "going down the drain" (as the consensus here proclaims). On top of that, children can be born without a US citizenship, freeing them of future US tax or other obligations.
 
Dear marine and makloda,

thank you both for your answer...

So in a sense man can say that American peoples are slave of their governements ? it's still better than to be a peon in the middle age... your kids can be free...
 
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Actually this is not 100% correct. If you obtain it through birth or legally through naturalization (i.e. meet all requirements) then you can never truly relinquish your citizenship. The US Supreme Court has ruled on this specific issue so there is case law supporting it. Now if you obtained it illegally then there is no limit for the government to act to remove it.

There are specific periods in the past because of US law that causes some discrepancies so lets assume from today forward.

The US policy for dual citizenship is pretty much they don't care if you have N citizenships. You are either a US citizen or not in their eyes. If you are then they will hold you to all laws / taxes if you ever visit the US again.

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My understanding is different. I believe anybody can renunciate their US Citizenship free and clear:

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

The only catch is the exit tax.

If you have had an income or net worth above a certain amount in the years prior to renunciation then you need to pay tax to the US for 10 more years after renunciation.

http://www.mwe.com/index.cfm/fuseac...t_id/36c3cb82-e7f9-4651-9668-f986d5f73e58.cfm
 
dear sysre,

Thank you ! It was really suspect...

Anyway who would be stupid enough to renunce to it... Nearly all of the world only dream to have the same rights...
 
Quote from sysre:

My understanding is different. I believe anybody can renunciate their US Citizenship free and clear:

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
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You left out many links containing several (policies and laws) which take into consideration exceptions and are applied on a case by case basis. It is not as clear cut at you make it seem from your post.

The following cases refer to the weird rulings around this:

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/cases.html ... there are too many to quote ...

Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967)

Richards v. Secretary of State et al., 752 F.2d 1413 (9th Cir. 1985)

Action and Deltamar v. Rich, 951 F.2d 504 (2nd Cir. 1991)
 
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the trend in this world seems ... socialist states embrace capitalism (vietnam china etc) and capitalism states test socialism (obama)
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The former socialist states have learned their lesson... IT DOESN'T FRICKIN' WORK!

Why can't we "learn from the experience of others" rather than having to destroy ourselves first?

Actually, that's a trick question... SOMEBODY benefits if we blow our whole thing to smithereens and have to "start over".. :mad: :mad:
 
Quote from SNBthetrue:

Nearly all of the world only dream to have the same rights...
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Which rights? The right to pay horrendous taxes? :cool:

The US has many things going for it as a place to live. Lots of relatively cheap real estate, very low cost of living (cheapest I know in the G7), amazing availability of products and services, good infrastructure, warm climate in the southern states.

But the tax system isn't very attractive if you have money. The UK and Switzerland e.g. are known to be much tax friendlier to foreigners.
 
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But the tax system isn't very attractive if you have money. The UK and Switzerland e.g. are known to be much tax friendlier to foreigners.
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Dude you are crazy to think that the UK is more tax friendly than the US. I am an American living in London and I pay a hell of alot more taxes in the UK then I would in the US and get shit for it!

You are correct about Switzerland, maybe I should move? :)

The US is actually one of the best places to live from a tax and cost of living POV; for now that is. :(
 
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