Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID
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Narrator: At this point, any normal individual not pushing a narrative would say "you know what? I was wrong. I need to re-evaluate my hypothesis." But not our "hero", GWB. He's busy trying to figure out how to spin this to find some way he can save face. Most likely, he will bow out of the conversation entirely and just hope it blows over. But our villain, Tsing Tao will remember to bring it up every time there is a discussion on how "Arizona did so much better because of masks!!"
You may have a point.
Right. So I leave the invitation open - please provide a stark difference using an apples to apples comparison (school to school, city to city, county to county) that shows evidence that mask mandates work. I'm not saying any don't exist.
I'm saying for every one you show me I can show you two or three that don't.
Let's see how things are going with schools in Tampa Bay...
In a mere couple of weeks -- a new record.
Hillsborough County Schools report 5.5K COVID-19 cases since school year started
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...-5k-covid-19-cases-since-school-year-started/
Bay area schools report record number of COVID-19 cases
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/n...chools-report-record-number-of-covid-19-cases
In a mere couple of weeks -- a new record.
Hillsborough County Schools report 5.5K COVID-19 cases since school year started
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...-5k-covid-19-cases-since-school-year-started/
Bay area schools report record number of COVID-19 cases
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/n...chools-report-record-number-of-covid-19-cases
In the first article, the 5,500 "COVID cases" aren't actual cases of people testing positive. They are "cases" where people were exposed and asked to quarantine. I've explained this to you before, and apparently you are too thick to understand it. So let me try once more.
If you put a policy in place that says "any time an individual is around a covid positive test, that individual has to quarantine for a given amount of time regardless of whether they have COVID or not" that doesn't mean all of those people have COVID. That just means you have a crazy quarantine policy.
So that article is full of shit.
The next article claims that "Between August 16-20, the district's dashboard shows 2,153 people who reported being sickened with the coronavirus." This is also patently false. The district's dashboard (which the article, of course, does not link to) shows the number of cases that had to quarantine - not those who were sickened with the virus:
So again, two more horseshit articles for a day full of GWB horseshit.
If you put a policy in place that says "any time an individual is around a covid positive test, that individual has to quarantine for a given amount of time regardless of whether they have COVID or not" that doesn't mean all of those people have COVID. That just means you have a crazy quarantine policy.
So that article is full of shit.
The next article claims that "Between August 16-20, the district's dashboard shows 2,153 people who reported being sickened with the coronavirus." This is also patently false. The district's dashboard (which the article, of course, does not link to) shows the number of cases that had to quarantine - not those who were sickened with the virus:
So again, two more horseshit articles for a day full of GWB horseshit.
Actually as noted on the your website screenshot these are 6153 cases -- each case MUST impact at least one individual in the case who tested positive. These 6153 cases led to 9134 people being impacted (which you put a box around)-- some of those impacted may merely be quarantined; but with the cases you at least need one person per case -- otherwise it is not a case since no individual involved in the case has Covid.
Bottom line the article is quite correct in stating the school system has at least 5,500 cases which is now 6,153 cases.
You better take a look at the listing by school on the right -- it lists out cases (which are people) by Staff & Student per location giving a total at the bottom for 1027 staff plus 5126 students for a total of 6153 people with COVID.
So tell us why are the Tampa Bay schools so overrun with Covid - mere days after opening?
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For comparison you can view the Covid cases reported in the Wake County School system with 161,000 students for the month of August. Note that year-round schools were in school this summer and traditional schools opened two weeks ago. Total around 1000 students & staff over a month. Wake County requires masks in school -- directly from the beginning of the school year.
Note that many still had pending Covid tests rather than confirmed.
Wake County Google Drive Covid Case Spreadsheet - https://tinyurl.com/4e73ywvt
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Let's compare the rates of COVID cases per the school student population for a quick comparison.
Hillsborough County School System = 220K students
Wake County School System = 161K Students
6153 cases / 220K = 2.80% of people with COVID in schools in Hillborough County
1000 cases / 161K = 0.62% of people with COVID in schools in Wake County
Tell us why this stark difference exists?
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How can you think like this? One positive COVID case can lead to multiple quarantine cases. My son was quarantined along with 13 individuals who were "around" a COVID kid (who tested positive). To my knowledge, none of the 13 kids (I know most of the families, but not all) had any symptoms or ever tested positive.
This just isn't so. Just to be sure, I called my son's school (listed in there) and asked them if they had X number of Covid cases currently at the school. The assistant principal (who my wife knows) said that was the number of kids currently being "locked down" (as she put it) pending a negative test after 5 days or proof of vaccination (either gets you out of jail).
It even says so in the box under the one I highlighted (Cases will change daily based on the number of new cases and cases that have been removed from isolation or quarantine).
The "impacted" you are referring to is an estimate based on the number of people outside the school or in different schools based on a formula they use (see how it says "Regardless of location"??)
They're not. And even if they were "overrun", none of them die or even get very ill over it. So its a non-issue. But they're not overrun. The only thing overrun is the fear and hysteria.
Even if you were using correct data (you aren't because of aforementioned "cases" being called COVID positives), you're using way too short a timeframe (three weeks) to extrapolate anything useful at all. Especially considering that Hillsborough county had only 4 days where masks were optional during that period. That means that 66% of the time, mask mandates were in full effect!
It's total garbage data, any way you slice it. But you're used to using garbage to come to conclusions. So much that it is second nature to you.
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It only takes starting the school year without masks to get off to a very bad start. Hillsborough County is an obvious example.
You can think that all you want, but you have no data to prove anything - and that's your problem all the time. Pontificating on all sorts of stuff, never having any substance to back it up.
Meanwhile, I've posted countless examples of how mask mandates did absolutely nothing. And you've never been able to refute any of them.