Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID
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What activity in life is 0 risk? As for "forcing" the teachers...have we been "forcing" the grocery store clerks to go to work? Are we "forcing" the day care administrators and staff to go to work? They've been taking care of kids throughout the entire crisis. No complaints from them.
Are we forcing healthcare workers to go to work? What about cops? EMTs? Anyone? Is anyone being forced to work?
Yes, because people who have a different opinion than you are trolls.
The fact that I point out the actual math that it is more risky to get in a car than it is from COVID and the supporting data, makes me a troll.
But hey, when you don't have a cogent argument - attack the person.
No one is demanding everyone show up in schools. Not once did I say everyone should show up in school.
What I am "demanding" is that my child go to school. In person. Its what I pay for. Or give me the money back from the taxes I pay so I can send him to a private school. I fully support someone's right to do remote learning if they are afraid.
It is YOU telling ME I can't do something. Not the other way around.
Did you note that I was not responding to you but kingjelly.
Do I need to provide dozens of links showing conservative politicians demanding that public schools open up for in-building education and not remote this fall?
These are the same conservative politicians who claimed for years that sending students to public schools was terrible tragedy and they needed "school choice" so the students could be provided with alternative education -- of course one of their biggest alternatives being pushed was on-line for-profit charter schools (of course owned and funded by the families of many of these conservatives). But now suddenly on-line learning is a terrible thing according to these conservative politicians --- but only if the public schools provide on-line learning. The hypocrisy meter has hit new extreme high readings.
Who cares who you were responding to? I was responding to you.
Once again, demanding schools open isn't the same as saying everyone must attend. If you have a politician that is demanding all students return to school, which is what your comment
means - please note the "demanding everyone show up in public school classrooms", then I'll happily denounce that idiot as both a hypocrite and a moron for not considering that some families may have high risk situations they should be able to manage remotely.
Do you have such a politician demanding everyone - everyone - go back? Or do you just have politicians saying schools must open? Because that's not the same thing.
Once again, if you can show me a politician that is saying students shouldn't learn on line, but previously was pushing for online - for profit charter schools, then this is a no-brainer and that person is an idiot. Show me who they are.
If they're saying that schools should open so parents have the option to send their kids to school OR if they're saying give parents the money back so they can send their kids to charter should they choose OR if, like Rand Paul they are fighting so parents have choice OR if they are saying "kids should be going to school" but aren't advocating that ALL STUDENTS must go, then what you said was misleading at the best, downright false at the worst.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Did she say every student must go back?
Of course, there is hypocrisy amongst the educational establishment as well. They formerly held the position that anything outside of a traditional classroom was ineffective and basically just for christians in west virginia, a bunch of Luddites. Now their resistance to reopening is creating all sorts of changing mindsets and new possibilities for permanently providing alternative methods of schooling, just as in the corporate world, many of the temporary measures are now becoming permanent.
The teacher's positions in many cities are very dicey. They talk safety and risks to them but they are also- with the passage of each day- piling more and more back to work demands on to their list- defunding police, medicare for all etc. And of top of it all they still want to be paid for not teaching a full routine.
No punchline here. I am willing to let some of the messiness sort itself out in the mud wrestling. Watch out though, for assuming that the home schoolers are set in stone as far as wanting the kids back in school and are being hypocritical. Many of them are playing a longer game. They want to try to force the teachers to either teach or not, and if the answer is "not" then they want a portion of their salaries and school expenses to go directly to the people who are doing the education either at home or in collaborative neighborhood "pods." Yeh. A high stakes game being played here. These liberal suburban education valuing parents who were always the biggest school supporters are very, very fried right now and are not worried about teachers salaries or jobs if they are doing all the work.
Great things will come of this, although it will be untidy.
this lady, Falwell, and the Corinthian types didn't bribe Donnie to keep their for-profit school scams closed after all.
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