Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID

[Tsing Tao]

I have not found a source that contains both school re-opening dates and R rate. I provided links to resources where you can easily find the information for both. From this you can create your own correlation.

I know you provided links that had information on both. I showed what your link said the R0 was. And again, it was different than what you claimed. You claimed (I'll repost for your convenience):

In nearly all areas of the U.S. where schools are re-opening the R is above 1.0 --- this means that the school re-openings will not go well.

There's no evidence of this in any of your sources or anywhere else for that matter. You just...made it up.

Let me state once again, the R rate needs to be below 0.8 in a community to safely re-open schools. If it goes above 0.8 they need to close schools again. Being below a level of 1.0 for R rate is not an appropriate standard for re-opening schools - as noted in Europe.

Ah, so now its .8 instead of below 1? Must be more of that "adaptive modeling" you use. I'm sure if there were multiple states below .8, it would suddenly have to be below .6 or .5. What a joke you are with this stuff.

Since few U.S. states have done proper contact tracing the actual infection rate (R) is merely an estimate in the U.S. - we will need to use another standard in local communities to determine if it is safe to open schools. The best available standard is the percentage of positive tests staying below 5% in the local community for a period of 14 days.

Is the percentage of positive tests in Florida currently below 5% over the past 14 days? How about in your local community of Tampa - is the percent of positive tests below 5% over the past 14 days?

No, the % positive in Tampa is about twice that. But here's the thing: No one gives a shit about GWB's requirements to open schools. So just because you posted a hard left site that says those should be the requirements:

(thanks for turning me on to that site, by the way)

The rest of us understand that the CFR among the demographics for students and most teachers, combined with all of the negatives from not sending them to school means we need to get them back to school. Shout at the rain all you want.

We. Don't. Care. What. You. Think.

 

[gwb-trading]

I can't interpret what Trump meant when he said children were immune to Coronavirus," admits exasperated Fox News medical expert.

Fox News medical expert: “I can’t interpret” what Trump meant when he said children are immune from coronavirus
https://www.mediamatters.org/corona...-cant-interpret-what-trump-meant-when-he-said

 

[gwb-trading]

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2 more teens in Florida die of coronavirus complications, bringing state’s number of juvenile deaths to 7
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/2...-states-total-number-of-juvenile-deaths-to-7/

 

[Tsing Tao]

2 more teens in Florida die of coronavirus complications, bringing state’s number of juvenile deaths to 7
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/2...-states-total-number-of-juvenile-deaths-to-7/

7 out of 38,000? What's that, a .02% CFR? This is about 52 times lower than the odds of dying in a car crash?

Just curious, but how many juveniles died of the flu last year?

 

[elderado]

CNBC just said Ohio Governor Mike Dewine has Covid.
That guy looks like Jonah's uncle on Veep.

DeWine also tested negative by a different test. Gonna get another test.

 

[Nine_Ender]

7 out of 38,000? What's that, a .02% CFR? This is about 52 times lower than the odds of dying in a car crash?

Just curious, but how many juveniles died of the flu last year?

7 has a significant meaning more then zero. You won't see many parents say who cares about Covid only 7 kids died from it since March.

 

[Tsing Tao]

7 has a significant meaning more then zero. You won't see many parents say who cares about Covid only 7 kids died from it since March.

If you were told 14 kids died from the flu on average every year for the last 10, and 7 kids died of COVID, and suddenly we want to keep schools closed because of the 7, but we never cared before because of the 14, the argument suddenly looks really shaky.

Unless we never ever want to go out again, people are going to get sick. Some of those who get sick are going to die. That's the way the world has worked since the dawn of time.

Total pediatrics killed by COVID thus far in the US is something like 30-40. I can find the exact number if you want, but that was what I read last. It might have gone up a few.

Total pediatric deaths in the 2017/18 flu season was 187 based on the CDC's reporting.

That means COVID is a hell of a lot less lethal.

 

[gwb-trading]

If you were told 14 kids died from the flu on average every year for the last 10, and 7 kids died of COVID, and suddenly we want to keep schools closed because of the 7, but we never cared before because of the 14, the argument suddenly looks really shaky.

Unless we never ever want to go out again, people are going to get sick. Some of those who get sick are going to die. That's the way the world has worked since the dawn of time.

Total pediatrics killed by COVID thus far in the US is something like 30-40. I can find the exact number if you want, but that was what I read last. It might have gone up a few.

Total pediatric deaths in the 2017/18 flu season was 187 based on the CDC's reporting.

That means COVID is a hell of a lot less lethal.

COVID just got started in Florida in a wide-spread manner in early June. The toll on children is just beginning.

 

[gwb-trading]

After being informed of pending legal action from nearly every single civil rights organization in the U.S. - a Georgia high school decides suspending students for taking pictures showing crowded hallways that violate COVID regulations may not be a smart idea. Especially when informed about the penalties for retaliating against whistleblowers exposing illegal public actions.


Update, Aug. 7, 2020, at 11:35 a.m.: Hannah Watters tweeted Friday morning that the school had notified her that they had “deleted” her suspension
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ended-social-media-posts-packed-hallways.html

I hope the principal(s) and administrators of North Paulding High School enjoyed making it on every single major media outlet in the United States from FOX to CNN to the Washington Post to the New York Times as the most evil school employees on the face of the earth in 2020.

In other news - a large number of parents in the district are demanding the heads of the school principal(s) and administrators.

 

[Tsing Tao]

COVID just got started in Florida in a wide-spread manner in early June. The toll on children is just beginning.

Riiight. A wikipedia article means that suddenly the death rate experienced by kids since the COVID crisis began, back in march when kids were still going to school and the virus was loose, suddenly its going to get much more deadly. I see.