Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID

Nine_Ender said:
No teachers give a fuck about your opinion. 1100+ deaths every day in the US now and you are on here posting shit still. Nothing about this virus is political beyond the deniers like you that refuse to get in line and get it under control. And yes, this rhetoric is damaging towards that end even if you take the other precautions.
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No student to teacher transmission has ever been recorded.

Covid19 just effects the old and the chronically ill. Let them stay home so the rest of us can live normal lives. Most people know this is a hyped up hoax. And most people dont want to ruin our freedom loving way of life for this stupid bug. Mind you a bug that will be around for along long time. So get used to it. Life goes on.
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Hotcakes said:
No student to teacher transmission has ever been recorded.

Covid19 just effects the old and the chronically ill. Let them stay home so the rest of us can live normal lives. Most people know this is a hyped up hoax. And most people dont want to ruin our freedom loving way of life for this stupid bug. Mind you a bug that will be around for along long time. So get used to it. Life goes on. View attachment 235782 View attachment 235783
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Most schools are yet to open since Covid spread, dumb ass. Only the truly most ignorant on this planet are still calling this a hoax. You are dumb as rocks buddy. Go ahead, take your pleas to the teachers; they won't give a fuck about your opinion either.

Oh I know, some of you love to scour the internet looking for "experts" to support your dumb ass theories. So what ? You teach the kids if you want to. Except no school would want you as a teacher.
 
gwb-trading said:
They’ll Never “Get Over It”
Think school kids won’t be hurt by COVID-19? Experiences from the 1918–19 flu say otherwise.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/07/contagion-guilt-school-reopening-covid.html
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Reading the history I think the 1918 swine flue was way worse due to lack of technology and advanced medicine.

Kids will suffer from virtual schooling for the first semester or two but with online materials and abilities of schools to catch up kids and provide more materials online to the vast majority means there will be delays in progress that can be overcome within the next school year when "normal" returns. In oru school district they said that if they took away a lot of the extra projects and learning add ons they could get all the core learning skills covered even with 2 a day in person or all virtual for the first 6 months of the year. Kids are overloaded with so much that stripping it down a bit will mean they can still achieve what is needed for 6 months and then the kids can have a harder year to catch up and excel. For K - 8, it will be a blip and distant memory for them.

Also shit was dirtier back then and quarantines and lockdowns had to last much longer.
 
El OchoCinco said:
Reading the history I think the 1918 swine flue was way worse due to lack of technology and advanced medicine.

Kids will suffer from virtual schooling for the first semester or two but with online materials and abilities of schools to catch up kids and provide more materials online to the vast majority means there will be delays in progress that can be overcome within the next school year when "normal" returns. In oru school district they said that if they took away a lot of the extra projects and learning add ons they could get all the core learning skills covered even with 2 a day in person or all virtual for the first 6 months of the year. Kids are overloaded with so much that stripping it down a bit will mean they can still achieve what is needed for 6 months and then the kids can have a harder year to catch up and excel. For K - 8, it will be a blip and distant memory for them.

Also shit was dirtier back then and quarantines and lockdowns had to last much longer.
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Yes, very survivor guilt is only a major factor when younger people die as is evidenced by this comparison of two island demographics during the Spanish flu.

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My daughter was out of school for over a year with me (on a project) doing home schooling and she jumped two grades. It will depends on the parents of course but one would expect the kids to be kept more to the grindstone in many cases but they are still doing their schoolwork.

It will change many a bit but I'd be surprised if it was much for the worse.
 
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Something odd I thought when reading the part of the original Art of the Deal where Trump continued the family lie about being Swedish, is he mentioned his Grandfather's hard living and drinking but did not mention he died of the Spanish Flu in 1918.

No shame in that so an odd omissions unless he saw it as weakness or there was more to it.
 
El OchoCinco said:
Reading the history I think the 1918 swine flue was way worse due to lack of technology and advanced medicine.
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I have seen commentary and analysis that pointed out that back at that time almost everyone was still carrying the TB virus- either dormant or active- so once the spanish flu weakened them their TB kicked in hard too. The TB is much less a factor today, in the western world anyway.

You still see a similar dynamic in nursing homes though. People are admitted to nursing homes/long term care facilities for all sorts of reasons but the final cause of death is overwhelmingly pneumonia, because the dormant pneumonia virus (although some forms are bacterial) start having their way once another condition has weakened them. Similarly, a secondary infection - and a serious one- of TB often kicked in when people had the Spanish Flu. Again, TB was absolutely rampant throughout the world back then. You might recover a little and become functional but even if you lived it was there like chronic bronchitis waiting for a chance to kick in when you got older or sick from another disease.
 
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