Rape charge recommended for Israeli president

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Gobbledygook

lol... I am serious man, you need to retire the Z handle. You're just recycling all the old gags and trying to evoke reactions using the same tired material. You know that comedians (like you) need to constantly give their audience fresh material, otherwise people will just say 'Aw, I saw him on Saturday Night Live and he was telling all the same jokes'.

Of course, since your post count is such a crucial part of your personal identity, it might be tough to start all over. After 134,378 posts, looking at that counter at 12 would be hard, for a while. But humans are adaptable, Z, and you too, although somewhat sub-human, would adapt.

You never did tell me why you changed your position regarding the origin of life on earth. I was eagerly waiting an explanation of that one, after all the chest-beating you did in the ID and evolution threads.

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[dddooo]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Your point is moral relativism?

Israeli rapists are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of their status in the society, if that's not a sign of true democracy I don't know what is. Palestinian suicide bombers have west bank streets and squares named after them, yet I don't remember you starting a thread about that. Still wanna talk about moral relativism?

 

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from dddooo:
Palestinian suicide bombers have west bank streets and squares named after them, yet I don't remember you starting a thread about that.

Exactly. I went to find a thread he started about the Amish incident, but it doesn't seem like he started a one about that either. Only about a Jew getting charged with rape.

Z only starts thread that are convenient for his (unfathomable) purposes.

Z is ET's most famous moral relativist. An act is immoral unless it's not, in his blurry, alcoholic field of vision.

 

[Handsome]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Rape charge recommended for Israeli president

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Police in Israel are recommending that the country's president be charged with rape and other crimes against several women, a police announcement said.

Police issued a statement Sunday announcing that they have asked Attorney General Menahem Mazuz to charge Israeli President Moshe Katsav with rape, indecent assault and sexual harassment of an undisclosed number of women.

Investigators also have evidence that Katsav illegally pardoned people convicted of crimes and conducted illegal wire-taps, the statement said.

The investigation of Katsav continues into other charges that he harassed a witness and obstructed justice, the statement said.

Mazuz will make the final decision on whether to put the president on trial.

A previous president and several prime ministers have been suspected of financial misdeeds and a former defense minister was convicted of sexual harassment. But the charges facing Katsav would be the most serious criminal counts brought against a serving Israeli official.

The investigation of Katsav began earlier this year after a former employee alleged he forced her to have sex under the threat of dismissal. Police repeatedly questioned Katsav at his official residence and seized personal documents.

Katsav has denied wrongdoing and his lawyer has said that he is the victim of blackmail.

Katsav was appointed president by parliament in 2000, after President Ezer Weizman resigned amid allegations of corruption.

The Israeli president's role is mostly ceremonial, but Razi Barkai, a political journalist for more than 30 years, told CNN these accusations, true or not, will mean an end to Katsav's political career.

News of a possible presidential sex scandal, which was overshadowed when it broke during Israel's war with Hezbollah, has recently become the focus of national media coverage.

Could you please include the links to the news stories you quote from?
Thank You!

 

[dddooo]

Quote from traderNik:

Exactly. I went to find a thread he started about the Amish incident, but it doesn't seem like he started a one about that either. Only about a Jew getting charged with rape.

Z only starts thread that are convenient for his (unfathomable) purposes.

Z is ET's most famous moral relativist. An act is immoral unless it's not, in his blurry, alcoholic field of vision.

Saddam Hussein killed millions, women and children are routinely stoned in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Lybia, the North Korean leader starved millions of his people to death, Putin is cracking down on democracy, free media and civil liberties in Russia, hundreds of thoudans were murdered in Sudan...

But of course the leaders of those countries were never prosecuted, arrested or charged with a crime so they must all be good law-abiding people not deserving of Z10's criticism. The Israeli president on the other side may be charged with rape by Israeli police. Israel must therefore be a really bad country. And yeah, Z10 is against moral relativism.

 

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from Handsome:

Could you please include the links to the news stories you quote from?
Thank You!

Yeah, Z, could you please include links to the news stories you quote from?

Thanks, Wee Willy aka La-Z-boy!

LA-Z-BOY!!!

 

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from dddooo:

Saddam Hussein killed millions, women and children are routinely stoned in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Lybia, the North Korean leader starved millions of his people to death, Putin is cracking down on democracy, free media and civil liberties in Russia, hundreds of thousands were murdered in Sudan

Oh, but you see, there are different cultural precedents at work in those countries. We are dealing with a different culture and so what may appear to be a heinous act of brutality may not be subject to censure by us because we can't understand the cultural context in which it was carried out, or more accurately, the cultural context in which it was carried out is always sufficient explication for any act. We can't condemn those acts because everyone is a special interest group of one, imbued with the inalienable right to claim that his way of living is his right and there are no standards and no one, not even those who make up the cultural group of which he is a part, can tell him that his way of living is not acceptable; it is an abrogation of his rights to suggest to him that he must conform to certain fundamental standards accepted by the majority within the cultural group he is a part of at that moment. It is discrimination to suggest that anyone else's acts are unacceptable. And this is all within the cultural group where the act is carried out. As I mentioned, God forbid if we, from our perspective outside a group, stand up and say 'Hey, wait a minute!! I don't think it's right, under any circumstances, to hang a young 16 year old girl by the neck until she's dead because she was caught necking with a 16 year old young man. I mean, things like that may happen in societies that are for all intents and purposes tribal, but within a group that has entered the 21st century? After all, female genital mutilation, the stoning to death of young women for 'acts inconsistent with chastity'... the rejection of these things basically defines human progress'. If you say this, the wrath of Z-like trolls will descend upon your head. They will spew relativist garbage until your head spins.

Get it?

That's Z-stylie moral relativism 101. He has made the same argument here, many times. His charges against me are impossible to comprehend, given that there have been long threads in which members here have hammered him for his unsupportable moral relativism.

But then, as RM has pointed out, the troll's objective is not to be right - he knows he is posting crap. The troll's objective is simply to troll, as he is doing here.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Sure, we can talk about moral relativism.

Last time I heard, each commandment was important.

The only change to that was from that fellow Jesus, who said that another commandment was important:

Jesus told his followers: "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another" (John 13:34-35).

So this silly little game of "our sins are not as bad as their sins" just illustrates the nature of moral relativism...and how it is used as an excuse to perpetuate wrong doings.

See, it is not enough to just say that the Israeli president was wrong for trolls like Niki, the wrong must attempted to be minimized by a comparative analysis of someone else's wrong.

Pathetic....which is why we see very little real moral evolution in that part of the globe.

Quote from dddooo:

Israeli rapists are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless of their status in the society, if that's not a sign of true democracy I don't know what is. Palestinian suicide bombers have west bank streets and squares named after them, yet I don't remember you starting a thread about that. Still wanna talk about moral relativism?

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

You can see that the story is from CNN.

http://www.cnn.com should do the trick for you.

If you need help beyond that, I will certainly try...if in fact you can be helped with this...err, problem.

Quote from Handsome:

Could you please include the links to the news stories you quote from?
Thank You!

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

More Gobbledygook

Quote from traderNik:

Oh, but you see, there are different cultural precedents at work in those countries. We are dealing with a different culture and so what may appear to be a heinous act of brutality may not be subject to censure by us because we can't understand the cultural context in which it was carried out, or more accurately, the cultural context in which it was carried out is always sufficient explication for any act. We can't condemn those acts because everyone is a special interest group of one, imbued with the inalienable right to claim that his way of living is his right and there are no standards and no one, not even those who make up the cultural group of which he is a part, can tell him that his way of living is not acceptable; it is an abrogation of his rights to suggest to him that he must conform to certain fundamental standards accepted by the majority within the cultural group he is a part of at that moment. It is discrimination to suggest that anyone else's acts are unacceptable. And this is all within the cultural group where the act is carried out. As I mentioned, God forbid if we, from our perspective outside a group, stand up and say 'Hey, wait a minute!! I don't think it's right, under any circumstances, to hang a young 16 year old girl by the neck until she's dead because she was caught necking with a 16 year old young man. I mean, things like that may happen in societies that are for all intents and purposes tribal, but within a group that has entered the 21st century? After all, female genital mutilation, the stoning to death of young women for 'acts inconsistent with chastity'... the rejection of these things basically defines human progress'. If you say this, the wrath of Z-like trolls will descend upon your head. They will spew relativist garbage until your head spins.

Get it?

That's Z-stylie moral relativism 101. He has made the same argument here, many times. His charges against me are impossible to comprehend, given that there have been long threads in which members here have hammered him for his unsupportable moral relativism.

But then, as RM has pointed out, the troll's objective is not to be right - he knows he is posting crap. The troll's objective is simply to troll, as he is doing here.