Ranking the 2024 Democratic field (CNN top 10)

[easymon1]

Yet they still might keep the Senate, because the GOP is that bad. 10 years ago Ted Cruz was the extremist bringing down the party. Now he’s basically the establishment. He seems reasonable compared to some of the clowns running like Herschel Walker. In the past people like him would have been seen as fringe unelectable candidates and they never would have made it through a primary. Now the dumber the better for the GOP. Roe v. Wade being overturned was very bad for them as well. That’s going to bring a lot of people to the polls who were probably going to stay home otherwise.

McConnel? What's that fossil still doing sucking on the govt titty. Piss off old man. Go away.

 

[Tony Stark]

. It was hers to lose and she did it amazingly well.

BTW,both Hillary and Obama got around 65 million votes in 2012 and 2016.

Hillary got more white moderate votes,Obama got more black and progressive votes.

Blacks and progressives populate the big cities in the swing states that the Democrat needs to win The EC.

 

[Tony Stark]

Yet they still might keep the Senate, because the GOP is that bad. 10 years ago Ted Cruz was the extremist bringing down the party. Now he’s basically the establishment. He seems reasonable compared to some of the clowns running like Herschel Walker. In the past people like him would have been seen as fringe unelectable candidates and they never would have made it through a primary. Now the dumber the better for the GOP. Roe v. Wade being overturned was very bad for them as well. That’s going to bring a lot of people to the polls who were probably going to stay home otherwise.

They might keep the Senate because of candidates like Warnock,Fetterman and Kelly who aren't considered moderates.

I have donated to and would vote and volunteer for them if I could.I will not be voting for,donating to or volunteering for Biden or any other moderate.

 

[kmgilroy89]

I don’t think the Democrats have a true monolithic base like the GOP does who just blow their orange dear leader nonstop. The Democratic Party is more of a big tent against him these days. They are moderate to liberal on social issues and conservative to liberal on economic issues. There’s big disparities on dealing with crime and economic policies within the party though. A lot of Democrats are pissed off about inflation, aren’t down with student loan forgiveness, and certainly don’t agree with defunding the police. However, Trump and abortion police being in charge scare the shit out of them.

 

[kmgilroy89]

They might keep the Senate because of candidates like Warnock,Fetterman and Kelly who aren't considered moderates.

I have donated to and would vote and volunteer for them if I could.I will not be voting for,donating to or volunteering for Biden or any other moderate.

I don’t get the impression that Warnock or Kelly are overly progressive. While they aren’t Sinema/Manchin, they are about as far to the left as their state can tolerate against a bad candidate as was Doug Jones. I wouldn’t put either amongst the most liberal senators though.

 

[Tony Stark]

You got a PHD, President Hater Degree.

I'm not a hater.I have voted for every democrat president nominee since I could vote.I have had enough and have joined the Ralph Nader,Bernie Bros Green party crowd who will stay home or vote Green party than vote for a moderate democrat.

Biden betrayed progressives and blacks even more,and he is going to pay for that.

 

[Tony Stark]

I don’t get the impression that Warnock or Kelly are overly progressive. While they aren’t Sinema/Manchin, they are about as far to the left as their state can tolerate against a bad candidate as was Doug Jones. I wouldn’t put either amongst the most liberal senators though.

They are not the most libriel but far more than Biden and seem to go along with every progressive policy while moderates like Biden are still against expanding The SC

 

[El OchoCinco]

She did do amazingly well with moderates,which is why I say moderates alone will not when a democrat the general election.

No lost amazingly well because it was hers to lose and she and her staff lost an election a group of college kids running could have won. Just hit PA, WI and MI hard where she lost by a combined 300,000 votes maybe... instead she ignored those states and did not campaign at all except to say trump bad.

 

[El OchoCinco]

You won't.As you can see I am totally at peace if Trump or De Satan beats Biden or another moderate democrat.

maybe you personally but the Bernie/AOC et al wing will bitch and moan non stop even though their policies are unteneable in this political environment and think to win they will need to go further left.

I cannot respect any strategy that entails "I will just stay at home and let a party I hate win just because my party couldnt get all my selfish plans passed"

 

[Tony Stark]

No lost amazingly well because it was hers to lose and she and her staff lost an election a group of college kids running could have won. Just hit PA, WI and MI hard where she lost by a combined 300,000 votes maybe... instead she ignored those states and did not campaign at all except to say trump bad.

Her showing up to those states would not have made black and progressive voters like her and she got about as much of the moderate democrat vote that a democrat can hope to get,more than she actually needed.