Ranking the 2024 Democratic field (CNN top 10)

[Tony Stark]

they’re overwhelmingly going to support centrist Democrats.

Yet Biden's approval ratings are double digits underwater at the best point of his presidency.

 

[UsualName]

Progressives are just a portion of the democratic party....they are not big or strong enough to get a candidate nominated yet alone elected. Bernie came close but not going to happen in current environment.

Right was successful in getting a populist elected and moving him far right but the fallout now is the progressive wing of the left will not be allowed to get any traction...

Bernie came close when? Hillary closed up the nomination faster than Obama and Biden cleared it in record time.

The problem is with the democrats nomination process and rules allow for, as @TreeFrogTrader would say, a fly stay around your potato salad longer than it should. The republicans actually have a better process. As the primaries move on they move to winner take all while Dems continue to split delegates.

Democrats are evaluating their nomination process currently. Moving away from NH and Iowa and punishing caucus states with later dates too.

 

[UsualName]

Yet Biden's approval ratings are double digits underwater at the best point of his presidency.

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You got a PHD, President Hater Degree.

 

[UsualName]

Hillary and Gore lost because blacks and progressives stayed home.

Bill,Obama and Biden won because blacks and progressives turned out in high numbers.

Moderate Democrat voters alone are not enough for a democrat to win,thier numbers were about the same for every election since 1990.The difference between the winners and losers were black and progressive turnout.

African American turnout is as important to the democrat party as white male turnout is to the Republican Party. In high turnout elections suburban white women are the deciding demographic.

I would love to see your data on “progressive turnout.”

 

[easymon1]

African American turnout is as important to the democrat party as white male turnout is to the Republican Party. In high turnout elections suburban white women are the deciding demographic.

I would love to see your data on “progressive turnout.”

People in general, black, white, red, yellow, green, blue are all wising up to this entire bullshit scenario, lol. Your two party system is bankrupt and so's the nation.

 

[Tony Stark]

. In high turnout elections suburban white women are the deciding demographic.

For democrats,black voter turnout is.If Hillary had gotten the same black voter turnout that Obama did in 2012 she would have won

 

[UsualName]

For democrats,black voter turnout is.If Hillary had gotten the same black voter turnout that Obama did in 2012 she would have won

Right. If AA turnout and WM turnout are both high, then WW tend to be the deciding demographic. If AA turnout is not high then the dem candidate is SOL.

 

[UsualName]

People in general, black, white, red, yellow, green, blue are all wising up to this entire bullshit scenario, lol. Your two party system is bankrupt and so's the nation.

I have big beef with our presidential form of democracy that creates a two party system. Totally agree that needs to change. But understand if we have a presidential system it is two party. No way around it.

 

[Tony Stark]

I would love to see your data on “progressive turnout.”

Look up Bernie Bros,young voter turnout.

Jill Stein/ Green party got around 450,000 votes in 2012,They got 1.5 million in 2012.Those were just progressives who went out to make a protest vote,others stayed home.

 

[Tony Stark]

Right. If AA turnout and WM turnout are both high, then WW tend to be the deciding demographic. If AA turnout is not high then the dem candidate is SOL.

Since 1990 Dems have never lost a high black voter turn out election.They have also never lost when a black person was on the ticket.That will change with Kamala though as she sided with Biden on back the blue.