Random Walk Theory Proved, once and for all.

Quote from MarkBrown:

i can actually make a random walk system that will be profitable. so would that mean it is valid or not valid?

Which benchmark will it beat on a risk-adjusted basis?
 
Quote from MarkBrown:

i could both prove and disprove random walk if you wish. i can actually make a random walk system that will be profitable. so would that mean it is valid or not valid?

if you can develop a system to profitably trade the random data, then in all probability it is not random to start with. It is like using mathematical formulae to generate pseudo-random numbers (which pass all the usual tests of randomness), and proceeding to predict the next items in the sequence by your knowledge of the formulae.
 
Quote from neke:

if you can develop a system to profitably trade the random data, then in all probability it is not random to start with. It is like using mathematical formulae to generate pseudo-random numbers (which pass all the usual tests of randomness), and proceeding to predict the next items in the sequence by your knowledge of the formulae.

no i said i could take random walk theory which is a formula a math formula and make it be profitable on any data find some random data or fabricate some make it as tricky as you wish you could make it cycle like a fft and then the new data could go strait up or down like a trend and i could capture it no matter..
 
Quote from piezoe:

Why is this thread still alive? What is the point?

no whats amazing is spydertrader and jack hershey longevity to never ending teach a method which is ever evolving. they mentor you as they learn themselves phenomena. so whats that point? whey are you even here unless your roman, tums, jack, spyder endless it is.
 
Quote from MarkBrown:

no whats amazing is spydertrader and jack hershey longevity to never ending teach a method which is ever evolving. they mentor you as they learn themselves phenomena. so whats that point? whey are you even here unless your roman, tums, jack, spyder endless it is.

Agreed, that is truly amazing!
 
for a discussion of "random walk," this thread's lack of mathematics is astounding.

an interesting theorem for symmetric random walks:

if W(t) is brownian motion (represents the gain(loss) of a stock process at time t), and we define tau = time that W(t) hits price a or b (a>=b)

then

P[tau less than infinity]=1

i.e

take ANY two price levels around a starting price-- could be +/-1,000,000 -- and the probability that a SYMMETRIC (no trend) br. motion will hit one of these price levels is 1.

ito processes have there place though, even if br. motion is obviously inappropriate.
 
The decades old adage, "Buy on rumor, sell on good news", still causes a profitable "Biased Randomness". Why? :confused:
The adage is old but the Market participants are new.:cool:

Quote from mu200411:12-06-07 11:14 AM

How to make money in a Random Market.
As I have said, although the Market movement is random, it is a "Biased Randomness". Traders can profit from these biases.
2. Rumor Bias.
If you act early on a rumor that will last more than 2,000 minutes (2,000 minutes = 33 hours =~ 6 trading days), such as the next rate cut rumor, you can make profit by selling on the news, as the old adage say, "Buy on rumor, sell on good news".
 
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