Rand Paul - Masks are all about Submission not Science

[wrbtrader]

SLOW the spread...stopping the spread not possible because there's too many Covidiots spreading misinformation even after +326,000 Covid-19 deaths.

It's one of the main reason why President Trump lost the U.S. elections...he was not willing to "slow the spread". Instead, he downplayed it and denounce the science until he saw too late his poll ratings.

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[jem]

The left are the morons spreading and believing information without science or data... For instance all you morons think you can catch Covid outdoors while hiking or exercising... So many morons think you have to wear a mask while hiking even if you keep your distance... Your team gets on facebook and says the stupid shit about masks and beach and hiking activities...
All without any data?

What we have been consistently asking for is govt policies designed to be consistent with the science and data.

You lefty idiots here in ET were telling me I was being dangerous for going to the beach and hiking and walking around... I told you the virus is not spreading at the beach and Vitamin D and immune health are critical.

I said you were morons... time and time again. All you had to do was witness the tens of thousands of people at beaches and the lack of spread at the time..
but you all were so blind to commons sense and reality... you all just relish in being mushrooms...


https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html

Since the start of the pandemic, studies have described cases of infection in restaurants, houses, factories, offices, conferences, trains and planes.

One study published in April identified a single case of transmission outdoors, between two Chinese villagers, out of more than 7,000 studies.

In an analysis of 25,000 cases, which has not yet been independently reviewed, six percent of cases were linked to environments with an outdoor element, such as sporting events or concerts.

These were enclosed areas where social distancing was not observed, or where people stayed for a while, moving around and talking loudly or singing.

"There were virtually no cases that we could identify that took place in sort of everyday life outdoors," study author Mike Weed, a professor and researcher at Canterbury Christ Church University, told AFP.

The data indicates that "outdoors is far safer than indoors, for the same activity and distance," according to a group of scientists and engineers, including professors from American, British and German universities.

 

[wrbtrader]

Time for you to walk the talk. Alternatively, STFU.

They can not shut up...their state / location is getting hammered with Covid-19 infections / hospitals / deaths.

Then when things get really bad for them...they have an out of body experience and imagine themselves living in Sweden even though the people in Sweden are having an out of body experience in imagining that they are living in New Zealand, Japan, Taiwan or South Korea but only after Norway / Finland won't allow the Swedish people to enter their country.

• What about Denmark ?

They open their border back up to Sweden and now they are getting hit hard by Covid-19 (infections / hospitalizations / deaths) when they had prior low numbers just because they closed their borders to Sweden in the early part of the Pandemic.

Yet, its now become more comical...Sweden learned its lesson and now have just announced that its closing its borders to the United Kingdom after the U.K. has a new growing variation of Covid-19.

Sweden...a failed (they said it themselves) natural herd immunity country now realizing you can not just let it rip through your population...

• https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ne...-least-until-march-31-due-to-brexit-covid-19/

Hopefully, Trump's coronavirus advisor (Scott Atlas the heart surgeon) have not been communicating with ET's Covidiots nor with Sweden in secrecy.

• https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ne...tial-travel-from-uk-due-to-new-covid-variant/

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[jem]

Let us review what we have learned..

a. There is virtually no spread outdoors doing everyday life things.
b. In CA there is virtually universal mask wearing indoors (outside of the home)
c. Yet we have a massive outbreak off very low levels of Covid in CA right now and round most of the world.
d. Studies showing masked people catch covid at the same rate... even those who say they wear them 100%.

therefore...

Given CA virtual 100% compliance indoors and virtually no spread outdoors doing non concert and drinking type events...
How they hell can any of you think masks work? CA has massively failed and we have universal mask compliance.


Is it not time we designed preventative measures around how this virus actually spreads?

Is it not time we specifically tailored measures to keep our ICUs available and preventing the deaths of the high risk?

I will tell you what... I will grant you your mask mandate..
Now... how about we actually get serious about preventing the spread in the high risk group.

 

[gwb-trading]

Let us review what we have learned..

a. There is virtually no spread outdoors doing everyday life things.
b. In CA there is virtually universal mask wearing indoors (outside of the home)
c. Yet we have a massive outbreak off very low levels of Covid in CA right now and round most of the world.
d. Studies showing masked people catch covid at the same rate... even those who say they wear them 100%.

therefore...

Given CA virtual 100% compliance indoors and virtually no spread outdoors doing non concert and drinking type events...
How they hell can any of you think masks work? CA has massively failed and we have universal mask compliance.


Is it not time we designed preventative measures around how this virus actually spreads?

Is it not time we specifically tailored measures to keep our ICUs available and preventing the deaths of the high risk?

I will tell you what... I will grant you your mask mandate..
Now... how about we actually get serious about preventing the spread in the high risk group.

Yet the evening news had another segment last night on the low level of compliance with mask wearing in California.

Once again you are pushing nonsense that is not aligned with science or the best public health policies to address a pandemic.

 

[jem]

outdoors or indoors?
are you referring to the outdoor caroling protest?

Its is possible that spread would happen during caroling.
I respect the protest... but I would consider that to be a higher risk activity...
Very high risk indoors.

Yet the evening news had another segment last night on the low level of compliance with mask wearing in California.

Once again you are pushing nonsense that is not aligned with science or the best public health policies to address a pandemic.

 

[Nine_Ender]

SLOW the spread...stopping the spread not possible because there's too many Covidiots spreading misinformation even after +326,000 Covid-19 deaths.

It's one of the main reason why President Trump lost the U.S. elections...he was not willing to "slow the spread". Instead, he downplayed it and denounce the science until he saw too late his poll ratings.

wrbtrader

Jem played a huge role in spreading misinformation to anyone who would listen. Even as much of the US is absolutely overwhelmed by Covid, even in his blessed San Diego County, he's on here pushing failed theories and refusing to be accountable for his past actions. He's a whiner with no common sense.

 

[FortuneTeller]

Jem played a huge role in spreading misinformation to anyone who would listen. Even as much of the US is absolutely overwhelmed by Covid, even in his blessed San Diego County, he's on here pushing failed theories and refusing to be accountable for his past actions. He's a whiner with no common sense.

The US is overwhelmed? What TV are you watching up there in Canada?

Hate America TV perhaps? Blame America TV perhaps? What?

 

[Nine_Ender]

The US is overwhelmed? What TV are you watching up there in Canada?

Hate America TV perhaps? Blame America TV perhaps? What?

You're an idiot; 320,000 dead already and the current outbreaks are 3-10 times worse then in Canada. What do you get out of your dumb posts here on this site ? I don't watch US news.

 

[jem]

you lying moron. ..

a. There is no evidence of outdoor transmission of Covid. Do you realize what a moron you were for claiming I was dangerous and doing the spreading by going to the beach... you are the most wrong person here. Go back and hide for 6 more months.

b. another study just came out showing asymptomatic transmission is low or non existent.
c. masks don't protect... and even though San Diego has been under masks mandates the virus is still spreading... as it has in Canada.

Finally, nobody followed my plan which was to isolate the high risk.
So my information has not been followed.

Its you moron shit.. that has failed us.

Jem played a huge role in spreading misinformation to anyone who would listen. Even as much of the US is absolutely overwhelmed by Covid, even in his blessed San Diego County, he's on here pushing failed theories and refusing to be accountable for his past actions. He's a whiner with no common sense.