Racism on ET

Could there be a significant correlation between the unability to carve out a living as a professional trader and the sheer desperate need to portray oneself as the morally superior, uber tolerant, holier than Jesus GutMensch? Some characters fit the bill perfectly for sure.
 
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“The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” — Louis Farrakhan

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Nine_Ender said:
Interesting theory but not really accurate. These kind of arguments are similar to those you hear from those that hate universal health care and gun control. The reality is we do a few things different then the US and in some areas we are far more successful for it. There are of course problems as any decent size country will have, just far less of them in these areas then in the US. And the statistics aren't even close, so debating the relative merits of one set of policies or another is futile beyond the misguided idea that you can't do it in the US.

Is a safer, more tolerant population with a health safety net a good thing ? I'd say so. The US does one thing better then any country, creating wealth for it's citizens. Unfortunately, even that is getting messed up these days, as the top 1% is now hogging so much of your countries rewards it's a problem. And to be fair, Canada has imported some of this characteristic the last 10-15 years, to it's detriment as well.
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You appear to not be aware that Canada suffers 2x the hate crimes per 100,000 people as the United States. Go look it up (3.9 per 100,000 in Canada). The United States endured only 5,796 hate crime incidents in the same period (1.9 per 100,000). Both countries use the same definition for a hate crime. The statistics aren't even close. Can you explain why Canada has such a large intolerance problem?

"About half of police-reported hate crimes occurred in Ontario
Ontario, representing 37% of Canada’s population, accounted for just over half of all police-reported hate crimes in 2011 (51%) (Table 4). The rate of hate crime in Ontario was 5.2 per 100,000 population. Despite relatively small numbers, both Northwest Territories and the Prince Edward Island, with small populations, recorded the highest hate crime rates (11.4 and 8.2 per 100,000, respectively) (Chart 5). Prince Edward Island reported 12 hate crimes in 2011, and the Northwest Territories reported 5."
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2013001/article/11822-eng.htm

FBI Hate Crime Report
Law enforcement agencies reported 5,796 hate crime incidents involving 6,718 offenses, down from 2011 figures of 6,222 incidents involving 7,254 offenses.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...al-hate-crime-statistics-show-slight-decrease

Every week when I am in Canada I read about hate crimes in the local Toronto papers (National Post, Sun, etc.). All the stories outline how the hate crime problem is much bigger in Canada than the U.S. Trying to make out Canada as some benign land of tolerance is simply does not pass the statistics test (and smell test).
 
dbphoenix said:
So that makes it okay.

Gotcha.
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Yourself and nine_ender are trying to assert that the "levels of xenophobia and white supremacism in the US" are much higher than other western countries and the the U.S. has significant problem with "xenophobia and white supremacism". The statistics show this is not true.

At the same time you ignore all other racism (such as black on white - which is the most prevalent problem with violent racism in the U.S. as demonstrated with the "knock out game").

All racism is bad. Maybe you need to focus on eliminating all racism in the U.S. rather than claiming the problem only is "xenophobia and white supremacism".
 
gwb-trading said:
Yourself and nine_ender are trying to assert that the "levels of xenophobia and white supremacism in the US" are much higher than other western countries and the the U.S. has significant problem with "xenophobia and white supremacism". The statistics show this is not true.

At the same time you ignore all other racism (such as black on white - which is the most prevalent problem with violent racism in the U.S. as demonstrated with the "knock out game").

All racism is bad. Maybe you need to focus on eliminating all racism in the U.S. rather than claiming the problem only is "xenophobia and white supremacism".
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I've never said they were higher than anywhere else. But, yes, the US does have a problem with this. It has for four hundred years. Still does. All one has to do is review the toxic posts down here to see that.

If all racism is bad, why do you indulge in it so gleefully?
 
dbphoenix said:
I've never said they were higher than anywhere else. But, yes, the US does have a problem with this. It has for four hundred years. Still does. All one has to do is review the toxic posts down here to see that.

If all racism is bad, why do you indulge in it so gleefully?
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Actually I am disturbed by the overt racism shown by some on ET (such as the n word), and also the racism from the left - which you demonstrate regularly by accusing everyone of "xenophobia and white supremacism". Once again I find your assertions that I indulge in racism gleefully to be absurd - and the accusation itself reveals your obscene and twisted agenda.

Answer a question - do you believe that all racism is bad? Or in your mind is the only problem white on minority racism?
 
gwb-trading said:
Actually I am disturbed by the overt racism shown by some on ET (such as the n word), and also the racism from the left - which you demonstrate regularly by accusing everyone of "xenophobia and white supremacism". Once again I find your assertions that I indulge in racism gleefully to be absurd - and the accusation itself reveals your obscene and twisted agenda.

Answer a question - do you believe that all racism is bad? Or in your mind is the only problem white on minority racism?
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Of course all racism is bad. And the enjoyment I get out of watching the contortions you and the other rightwingers down here go through to rationalize and justify your racism doesn't make me a racist. If anything, it makes me a stupidist (anti-stupidity).
 
dbphoenix said:
Of course all racism is bad. And the enjoyment I get out of watching the contortions you and the other rightwingers down here go through to rationalize and justify your racism doesn't make me a racist. If anything, it makes me a stupidist (anti-stupidity).
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The overt racism of some posters is disturbing but less malevolent than the racism of the left which attempts to re-write history and change the narrative to a saga that all white men are evil and are responsible for all the ills of the world. A fable that is less than truthful, and at the core is the worse type of racism.

Baron stated it best earlier in this thread when discussing decent and indecent people. Similarly, I deal with people as individuals - their character and integrity will define where they stand in society, not their race.
 
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