Race

Casta system tells people what they can and can not do by who they were born to. So then if someone has a talent for dance, but were born into a laborer clan, they will be a laborer and not be able to develop their dance talent. And some in a casta system who are born into a higher clan of leaders, will be given leadership, when sometimes they are a bad leader. If casta systems let people prove what they can do, then maybe it would be good?
 
Quote from trendlover:

Yannis, I understand most of your posts but not this one.
I think all people would take a bigger peice if they had a choice. They woold choose 1/3 of the 30 inches pie. Maybe I lost something in the translation?
This may have been a little too cute - it was late in the trading day. What I meant was that some people would look at the "fairness" of the deal first and the absolute size of their piece second. So, in today's politics, especially when liberals talk, you hear a lot about "what's fair" and "pay your fair share" and a lot less wrt what can make the whole pie bigger for everybody.

Many tax systems of antiquity (eg, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc) were trying to be "fair" by compelling each free person to pay 1 coin per year (and, in addition, they also taxed trade separately, but that's a different story.) Here, we are gradually advancing to a system where a very small portion of the population, 4%-5%, pay practically all the taxes. That strips the broad public from any sense of responsible ownership and they ALWAYS want higher taxes for the "rich" (aka successful suckers) and more freebies for themselves, and also demonizes those whose ingenuity and hard work support the whole system. That's where Europe is. Terrible situation, imo.

Hey, when I was 8 years old and my mother brought french fries to the table, fairness (getting the same amount of good food that my brothers and sister did) was all that mattered, because I subconsciously trusted that there was enough for everybody. I think I've grown past that by now and I hope others do too. The economy, as we know, is something where size DOES matter! :)
 
Quote from Yannis:

This may have been a little too cute - it was late in the trading day. What I meant was that some people would look at the "fairness" of the deal first and the absolute size of their piece second. So, in today's politics, especially when liberals talk, you hear a lot about "what's fair" and "pay your fair share" and a lot less wrt what can make the whole pie bigger for everybody.

Many tax systems of antiquity (eg, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc) were trying to be "fair" by compelling each free person to pay 1 coin per year (and, in addition, they also taxed trade separately, but that's a different story.) Here, we are gradually advancing to a system where a very small portion of the population, 4%-5%, pay practically all the taxes. That strips the broad public from any sense of responsible ownership and they ALWAYS want higher taxes for the "rich" (aka successful suckers) and more freebies for themselves, and also demonizes those whose ingenuity and hard work support the whole system. That's where Europe is. Terrible situation, imo.

Hey, when I was 8 years old and my mother brought french fries to the table, fairness (getting the same amount of good food that my brothers and sister did) was all that mattered, because I subconsciously trusted that there was enough for everybody. I think I've grown past that by now and I hope others do too. The economy, as we know, is something where size DOES matter! :)
Ok Yannis, I understand. 1/2 is more than 1/3 if the pie is the same size. Make a bigger pie and to give away 1/3 is giving more, but keeping more too.
Did you get enough french fries? :p Mothers will divide equally and not care who worked the hardest for the food usually. That is when your brother tries to take your french fry when you and mom are not looking.:p
 
Quote from trendlover:

With the fair tax, how does government know how much money to put in each persons retirement? If 23% is taken from every dollar spent, but not taken from income, then how does government decide how much a person will receive for retirement? Many purchases are cash and not tracked. So when retirement comes then does the government give benefits by how much income a person had on their life?

I'll refer you to FairTax.org. Everything you need to know is there. I shouldn't of opened up that can of worms here.
 
Quote from TGregg:

Not gonna happen. It's even more unlikely than an Algore nomination. The argument about whether government should be bigger or smaller is kaput. Now we argue about how much bigger it should be (only twice as big, or even more).

I here ya, but we can at least try. It doesn't take much effort to voice our opinions through email to our reps & senators and place our votes in the appropriate place.
 
Quote from Vista: ...FairTax.org...
I'm not really for this sort of approach. Practically all the politicians, political commentators and publications I agree with are against it. So, count me out :)
 
Quote from Almond_Dragoon:

What is interesting about the genetics question is that whites can lay claim to higher IQ than some other groups, but the irony is that the ideal physical image of the white person is genetically recessive across the board.

In time, blonde hair and blue eyes will be as rare as a white buffalo.

Isn't it possible that these physical traits are not as important to a race's success through history (or today), as other heritable qualities, such as, one's abililty to use logic and solve complex problems, or ingenuity?

I brought up the Out of Africa model awhile back, because I think it's very possible that black plight is a worlwide phenomenom and maybe it applies to black problems currently in America.

Maybe the big picture question is: If all of our family trees can be traced back to Africa 150k - 200k yrs ago, what occurred during human history to cause these problems for the black race? Or vice versa, what caused whites & asians to pace ahead?
 
Quote from Yannis:

I'm not really for this sort of approach. Practically all the politicians, political commentators and publications I agree with are against it. So, count me out :)

If you had said "I don't agree with it" fine, but at least take a look at it for yourself and form your own opinion. You just might like it. You seem like a logical person.

I don't want to derail the thread. Its my last post on the FairTax.
 
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

"black" genes, also known as the "L" haplotypes are the oldest genetic haplotypes in existence, most science seems to suggest that all the other halplotypes evolved from those... alternative theories include that different 'breeds' of human were simultaneously evolving outside of africa... but most of academia currently endorses the ''out of africa'' theory, so the L haplotypes are the oldest, and most well preserved genes of the initial human condition according to modern science...

Are you referring to this alternate theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans
 
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