Um, the guy called Obama a "half breed", an offensive term that racists often use.
That alone does not make Pa(b)st a racist; his other statements, though, suggest that he is.
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Um, the guy called Obama a "half breed", an offensive term that racists often use.
That alone does not make Pa(b)st a racist; his other statements, though, suggest that he is.
when u come on a blog site that has 10k registered members and another 10k guests and you berate minorities,blacks,latins jews,you might as well where your white robe and stand next to the burning cross,this is biggotry dressied up with a few intelligent arguments to make it look like a debate,its just hatred,pabst this isn't the first time you've done this, Pabst,i used to respect you as a trader but you've really shown your worst side again and againQuote from nutmeg:
Pabst,you and every other racist can sit back and throw gas on the fire
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I don't think anyone is throwing gas on the fire. Every suggestion or possible solution, someone has a problem with it. That's the problem. Everyone wants it all worked out nice and neatly on paper before anyone may possibly consider an attempt. This is not a landing on the moon where every contingency must be addressed.
Ammo,
Common tactic, attack the author.
Just a couple of comments:Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
A few random thoughts.
The U.S. fought deadly wars against various Asian nations in four consecutive decades. We've killed millions and millions of âyellow menâ from Japan to Cambodia, Korea to Laos, Vietnam to the Philippines. All combined we've lost 200,000 troops, spent hundreds of billions, interned American citizens of Japanese descent and Hollywood has cast thousands in the role of maniacal, evil ânipsâ, âJapsâ and âslant eyes.â Until my adult lifetime the official sports nickname of Pekin Il. High School was the Chinks.
America has only used nuclear weapons in warfare once. Of course we killed Asians.
Yet if one were to poll American whites on their personal impressions of Asians, I'm guessing the vast, vast majority would respond that Asians are pretty cool. I don't recall ever meeting an Asian I've disliked. Perhaps those out West who live near Asian gangs have a different take but I see Asians in America as extreme scholastic achievers, businessmen who often prosper in dangerous inner city neighborhoods and good family people. Unlike many other white guys I harbor no particular sexual desire for Asian women, I've never visited Asia nor do I really desire to. I enjoy Asian food but in no way am I pre-disposed to like Asians. I just do. My feelings are based on the way they treat me, my community and each other.
I would never pretend people are color blind. However I don't think people dislike someone of another race based on color. Instead color merely becomes a dominant identification. Just like gender, religion or sexual orientation. We'd be naive to believe folks of differing faiths don't possess traits unique to their own dogma. Individuality is usually just a subset of our cultural upbringing.
One can't help but contrast the good will felt toward Asians to the animosity between Blacks and Whites. Is it because yellow is closer to white in the color wheel? Or could it be something more tangible? Could it be that whites (substitute humans) make a statistical inference based on identifiable markers? After all the language men use to describe women is pretty illustrative of those generalized divides. How many of you have heard, âwomen are tough to work for, it's like they have something to prove.â Or âgood looking chicks have attitudes.â While those remarks are considered sexist or even cruel they may contain a grain of statistical truth.
The history of race relations in the U.S. perhaps precludes any dialog that won't be viewed as hostile and prejudicial. Too many old wounds. What about those who come here devoid of that bad history. A fresh set of eyes so to speak.
Then how do immigrants view American blacks? To be blunt, not favorably. By and large immigrants see blacks as spoiled. Put yourself in the shoes of a Mexican in L.A., an Arab in Detroit or a Polish person in Chicago. Chances are you came to America without speaking English. You enter a strange land amid a small network of friends and family. Because of financial hardship or immigration laws your parents or children might have been left behind. Talk about the trauma of your first day in school! So now you're in your first day in the City of Obama.
While you're working some menial back breaking job, trying to learn conversational English and putting off any luxury beyond a few cervezas so you can send money back home-you're robbed at gunpoint by guys who own cars and expensive shoes. You see these thieves as people who had the benefit of free schools. Schools that fielded sports teams, held plays, gave out free lunch and had just 20-25 students in a class. These are people who if unemployed or poor receive food stamps, subsidized housing, welfare and aid to dependent children. They have fire and police protection, nice parks, recreational facilities, affirmitive hiring, helpful quotas in government jobs and contracts and best of all they're full fledged U.S. Citizens. Yet with all those advantages-perks you and your people would die for, perhaps your people have died for, yet these American blacks drop out of school, join gangs, rob, murder, abuse drugs and live in squaller.
Even the taxi driver from Nigeria refuses to pick up American black fares. He quickly learns the statistical risk. Obviously he makes a decision based on race. Are we to imply the Nigerian is prejudiced?
I personally know several Asians who moved to this country when they were in their teens or early 20's, knew none or very little English, faced a lot of discrimination, had no friends in high places, and had to start from scratch. They ALL studied hard and learned English while working low-paying jobs; those who came when they were very young or in their early teens often ended up graduating at the top of their high school classes despite having to learn English as a second language. They are ALL successful now, either as businessmen and women who own their own businesses, or fast-rising employees in large and distinguished companies. Their kids are following in their footsteps - getting straight A's in school and going on to elite universities. Many of those kids are going to tutors - not to catch up with their peers, but for advanced lessons that will get them even further ahead.
I strongly believe that Asians are generally successful here because they have an incredible work ethic, a strong appreciation and respect for education, a strong sense of wanting to make their family - especially their elders - proud, and the understanding that nothing is going to be given to them; you have to work for everything you get.
Most of the American blacks I have known do not share those characteristics, and if they do, not to the extent of the Asian immigrants I know.
Also, the Nigerian taxi driver is not being prejudiced. He's being smart. Why should he risk his life when a far safer fare is further down the road?
Almond, you say females tend to choose the most masculine models, white man can't jump.Quote from Almond_Dragoon:
Then why so many black single women choose not to be married? Why so many black females who won't tolerate being dominated by a black man? Black females want a man who will work. She won't support him becasue he is masculine.
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Almond, you say females tend to choose the most masculine models, white man can't jump.
Then why so many black single women choose not to be married? Why so many black females who won't tolerate being dominated by a black man? Black females want a man who will work. She won't support him becasue he is masculine.
These single black females do not choose not to be married. From what I have read, and seen, it is a serious issue in the black community. Black women hold great animosity to black men, especially the successful ones, who date outside their ethnic group.
Black women cannot get and keep a man because many of them are not very, ummm, girly. Masculine men tend to choose feminine women. If they want to argue, they can go to their local legislature and argue all day.
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These single black females do not choose not to be married. From what I have read, and seen, it is a serious issue in the black community. Black women hold great animosity to black men, especially the successful ones, who date outside their ethnic group.
Black women cannot get and keep a man because many of them are not very, ummm, girly. Masculine men tend to choose feminine women. If they want to argue, they can go to their local legislature and argue all day.
I don't see this. I see black women who want a man who will work, just like she works. If the black man she is with wants to be dominate to her, and also not work, but go in and out of work, and live off her, then she gets tired of this and does not want him around. It doesn't matter how masculine he is, or physically superior. She is not looking for the highest jumper like you say, but looking for someone she can depend on. Maybe you are right about some black women who have animosity to the black man who marries outside his race. You are wrong about not being girly enough. Some black women are very attractive, like some white women are. If by girly you mean submissive, then you are right, a black women will not sit back and accept being dominated by someone who won't work. What I think is black women will not be submissive to a black man who thinks he is king just becasue he is physically strong, but does not provide. This is what I see every day.
Latino culture is very different.
Quote from trendlover:
I don't see this. I see black women who want a man who will work, just like she works. If the black man she is with wants to be dominate to her, and also not work, but go in and out of work, and live off her, then she gets tired of this and does not want him around. It doesn't matter how masculine he is, or physically superior. She is not looking for the highest jumper like you say, but looking for someone she can depend on. Maybe you are right about some black women who have animosity to the black man who marries outside his race. You are wrong about not being girly enough. Some black women are very attractive, like some white women are. If by girly you mean submissive, then you are right, a black women will not sit back and accept being dominated by someone who won't work. What I think is black women will not be submissive to a black man who thinks he is king just becasue he is physically strong, but does not provide. This is what I see every day.
Latino culture is very different.
Fair enough, what I have seen is that most "sistas" want "ballers", or something along those lines. The future CEO of a company she just doesn't have time for, until there are children to be provided for.
I will admit that I am on the outside looking in, and you probably have a better view being a Latino and all.
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Fair enough, what I have seen is that most "sistas" want "ballers", or something along those lines. The future CEO of a company she just doesn't have time for, until there are children to be provided for.
I will admit that I am on the outside looking in, and you probably have a better view being a Latino and all.
I think it is more about how educated the women is, its not her race that explains her looking for just sex from a man.