2) For Tree... what happens if the DNC nominates Joe for President, your girlfriend Kamala for Veep.... and Joe drops out 2 weeks later?
Does Kamala get the nod or do the super-delegates get to nominate someone else? This is probably new territory. But it could happen. I mean come on maaaan..... Joe is gonna be a basket case against Trump in a debate. Just calling that one as I see it.
If the nominee clearly leaves the race, I believe that all delegates- not just the superdelegates- get to vote again in another vote for the nominee. The party simply no longer has a nominee and there is no rule that it automatically falls to the vp nominee. Now some of the delegates may still be bound to their state obligation to stay with the candidate that their state originally voted for, and then see whether or not that person gets a majority vote in the first pass and then if there is no majority they are freed up on the second vote to go elsewhere. Of course I am speaking from what the rules look like but the DNC can pretty much change those rules and just say that they are going to have a executive committee meeting and choose someone so there is that.
An even more dicy scenario would be if the election were held- joe wins- and then goes tits up two weeks later. Does the vp then automatically become prez? I think the answer is no. The election is in early november but the electoral college does not meet until late in december so the majority of the electoral delegates are coming into the electoral college election uncommitted or unattached.
Another nightmare would be if Joe is elected and then had a debilitating stroke that incapacitated him two weeks late such that he was still elected but had not voluntarily, or lacked the capacity to willfully step down so was required to be elected at the electoral college because all these states passed laws requiring their electoral votes to go to the person who got the plurality. How the hell are you going to apply the 25th amendment to someone who has not even assumed office yet.
Okay, we have a few "thought experiments" and those are arguably far-fetched a bit. But we do know that if Joe is elected it is not far-fetched- but rather an absolutely certainty that he will ultimately leave office under extremely messy circumstances. He is already unfit for office so people have an obligation to be gaming some of this out in their mind if they care about the country. In other words: What are you doing for gawds sake, how can this end well? Those little scenarios I just outlined just for sport will look tame when you how it really goes- if he wins.
Sad, very sad, for Joe and the country.
Jill, I have no respect for you. You know Joe looks to you for signals about what is good and what is do-able and what the family supports. Why did you allow this? You enjoy watching him become a national basketcase when he could have left at the top of Obama's game? Shame on you. It will not end well.