Quit Complaining About Living Through History

Ricter · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from bugscoe:

And what about Obama's agenda to save the Obama presidency? Why is pushing this off until 2013 good for America?

Obama: "The only bottom line that I have is that we extend this debt ceiling through the next election, until 2013,"

It is true that Obama has self-interested reason to not have to do this again during his reelection campaign, but it's also true that the public does not want to do this again so soon, either.

Scataphagos · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from bugscoe:

And what about Obama's agenda to save the Obama presidency? Why is pushing this off until 2013 good for America?

Obama: "The only bottom line that I have is that we extend this debt ceiling through the next election, until 2013,"

You gotta put CaptainObvious on ignore... he's SOOOOO FULL OF SHIT!

Ricter · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from Scataphagos:

You gotta put CaptainObvious on ignore... he's SOOOOO FULL OF SHIT!

You are so weak.

Lucrum · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from CaptainObvious:

The Gabster is correct. The Tea Party, in it's current form, has but one agenda. Torpedo the Obama presidency. Whatever they, (the Tea Party), had in mind when they came to be, they have evolved into a group with one thing in mind, and that's to bring down Obama, whatever the cost.
...Should the market tank and the economy goes really south...the republican party owns it. All of it!

Sorry but NO SALE!

bugscoe · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from Ricter:

It is true that Obama has self-interested reason to not have to do this again during his reelection campaign, but it's also true that the public does not want to do this again so soon, either.

Then let's get it all over with right now.

CaptainObvious · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from bugscoe:

And what about Obama's agenda to save the Obama presidency? Why is pushing this off until 2013 good for America?

Obama: "The only bottom line that I have is that we extend this debt ceiling through the next election, until 2013,"

Obama has an agenda for sure, but the larger issue of a fragile economy must be acknowledged. We may or may not be in a stronger economic position in 2013, but we're definitely weak now.
Personally I only care about what's good for the average working American, and loathe the 535 drama queens playing with our money and our future.

Max E. · Jul 30, 2011

I find it hard to comprehend that you could actually believe anything that is ridiculous as what you have posted. If the Tea Party's only objective was to sand bag Obama why do they keep on taking on isues which are terribly unpopular, like entitlement reform, or no new taxes on the debt ceiling?

Plus they know what happened with the government shut down in the 90's and how that worked out for republicans. In order for someone to believe in what you are saying, you would have to believe that the Tea Partiers are the most incompetent people in history, as they keep on tackling issues which do not benefit themselves, and do not hurt Obama.

Quote from CaptainObvious:

The Gabster is correct. The Tea Party, in it's current form, has but one agenda. Torpedo the Obama presidency. Whatever they, (the Tea Party), had in mind when they came to be, they have evolved into a group with one thing in mind, and that's to bring down Obama, whatever the cost.
This whole debt ceiling game has one of two campaign goals, and make no mistake this is just about campaigning and nothing else. They want a default on the Obama watch, and/or force Obama to use the 14th amendment so they can feign their horror about that.
I hope that what's left of sensible republicans know the consequences if this goes south. Should the market tank and the economy goes really south...the republican party owns it. All of it!

377OHMS · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from Scataphagos:

You gotta put CaptainObvious on ignore... he's SOOOOO FULL OF SHIT!

Ignore isn't the answer. Lucrum just seems to steadily pull them apart with reason and facts.

I can't achieve that degree of calm, clinical argument but I am working on it.

Ricter · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from bugscoe:

Then let's get it all over with right now.

Sounds good. Raise the ceiliing, cut spending by $4 trillion and raise revenue by $1 trillion, over the next ten years.

Ricter · Jul 30, 2011

Quote from Max E. Pad:

I find it hard to comprehend that you could actually believe anything that is ridiculous as what you have posted. If the Tea Party's only objective was to sand bag Obama why do they keep on taking on isues which are terribly unpopular, like entitlement reform,

Good question. Why are they trying to rein in entitlements that they themselves receive?