Questions to Jack Hershey

Huh? Mar 09 was the major inflection point; Sep 2, 2009 was only one of many ordinary, inconspicuous points of continuation in the rally off of that bottom.
Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

This begs the question...if the turning point of a lifetime (short signal) turns out not to follow thru, shouldn't that signal the ultimate buy? Judging from the chart you posted, it seems his call was at a major inflection point. 9/1/09 has acted as the bottom for over 2 years now.

I'm not sure how long you have been trading, but your argument fails to notice that, even though his call was wrong, his entry point for a short was absolutely perfect (for taking a shot). Many of my "wrong" trades happen to be intra-day inflection points too so I can see where he is coming from.

Just try and think about it intuitively.
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

"Now that it has been proven that Volume leads Price - ALWAYS.."


I guess I was asleep when the proof was shown. All I have seen are a few well chosen charts.

If you think about it, you don't need Spydertrader or Jack to understand this, it's nothing they came up with. How could a liquid market move without volume leading price? It's impossible.
How to trade of that knowledge is a different thing.

best regards,
Mushroom
 
Quote from nkhoi:

dom has no color, those are colors of t&s, 2 of them, one with filer > 50 and one with filer < 50.
DOM of stocks have different colors for different levels. you can change them.
i dont understand what colors for buy and sel for t&s filer > 50 ?
Grren -buy , yellow -sell?

Jack. i read your post here http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1431044&#post1431044.
you use that colors
We have the jerseys who play. red, orange, yellow and GREEN
what colors for?
 
Mushroom, consider this. Say a market had a constraint of only having one contract trade every minute and that trade was at the bid for 20 minutes then at the ask for 20 minutes. you would have price simply move up and down with flat volume. So that "proves" volume does not lead price ALWAYS.

Also price can continue to move up or down on increasing or decreasing volume.

Perhaps if you showed me a chart with actual entry and exit points real time using these methods I might better understand.

If you are a new trader, less than 5 years, you might remind yourself that there is nothing new in the way prices move except for the technology. It is all based on fear and greed just as it was 100 years ago. All that is new is the way guru's and charlatans re-package it for their benefit.

Now that benefit may be for money, attention, or maybe to generate hits on a website.

LOL Whatever you do, do not risk real money unless you are at least 3 month profitable sim.

Keep the entertainment coming. LOL

I do not really expect to see a chart, just as I never expect to see Jack answer the hard questions as the answers show that the emperor has no clothes!!! All you will get is redirection, BS, gobbly gook and personal insults. Look up the definition of Charlatan.

lOL Enough fun here. Off to the beach....
 
Quote from jack hershey:

camtasia is a trademarked name for a program that makes videos of your screen display.

Cam probably has something to do with the screen being looked at electronically.

The tasia part probalby is a way of explaining the breadth and dynamic that out does the competition.

So for years I prepped a series of twice a month presentations for anyone who wanted to come on a particular night of the week.

So people came to Tucson from around the country. A club in NC triangle rotated their members, for example. West coasters just came each time.

by makiing a powerpoint in advance and having a scanner connected to my computer, I could put up anything for discussion.

I prerecorded the market and played it in real time or faster.

We discussed the Depression and its beginning with the climax run in JUN/JUL 2006.

We always ran through the stocks from the Universe that were coming up for trades before the next meeting. The attendees rotated keeping the Universe.

Usually about 70 people showed. On alternate weeks they met in homes or truck stops, etc.... Sort of a movable feast. I would go to new trader's offices and help them set up and about 10 others would drop in. advanced people partnered with beginners.

before cantasia we used the video cameras on tripods at my acrbitectural studio. Then we made 10 1-hour deited down guides that a person could use to get going. I was on a twin DTM disk feeds at that time. Many many sets were copied. the camera could pick up the screens, we who talked, and the drawing board where we did pairs of offset charts in four colors to anticipate the turns using a regional and geometric sheet.

Om a FOMC day, we could do three 300 point segments where we nicknamed a 150 point move on the DJX.X "a Greenspan".

So I have a huge archive spanning about 50 some years.

A lot of that time I had 15 POA's to trade for others. And at one time I did four levels of seven sets of emails four times a day. Other people did the levels I just shipped the seven sets four times a day.

ET showed up at some point recently.

On one of the presentations, I dicussed the DOM and the games played there. Not too many books cover that subject.

I had staff transcribe the camtasias and I illustrated them with the powerpoint pics. A person maintained a distribution site for both the videos and the documents. Also there were warm up documents. Some are still mentioned in these times.

So where are these videos and people? Oh wait, you are a liar. Never mind.
 
A liar? Yathink?

Jacks profile from another site.


Occupation: amateur trader, author, architect, EOP service.
Location: Tucson , AZ
Years Trading: 52
What I Trade: Stocks, DJ, ES

I trade applications of an agorithm I created:PVT, SCT and SSR. PVT trades stocks 100 cycles per year @ 10% per cycle. there is a 100,000 share cap per stream. SCT trades, intraday, 20 to 40 traversal rades all in all the always on the right side of the market. the net profit yield is 3x ATR daily on the 5 min ES index. SSR does sector rotation in stocks @ 4 % a week for 4 1/2 week holds.
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

Mushroom, consider this. Say a market had a constraint of only having one contract trade every minute and that trade was at the bid for 20 minutes then at the ask for 20 minutes. you would have price simply move up and down with flat volume. So that "proves" volume does not lead price ALWAYS.

Also price can continue to move up or down on increasing or decreasing volume.

Perhaps if you showed me a chart with actual entry and exit points real time using these methods I might better understand.

If you are a new trader, less than 5 years, you might remind yourself that there is nothing new in the way prices move except for the technology. It is all based on fear and greed just as it was 100 years ago. All that is new is the way guru's and charlatans re-package it for their benefit.

Now that benefit may be for money, attention, or maybe to generate hits on a website.

LOL Whatever you do, do not risk real money unless you are at least 3 month profitable sim.

Keep the entertainment coming. LOL

I do not really expect to see a chart, just as I never expect to see Jack answer the hard questions as the answers show that the emperor has no clothes!!! All you will get is redirection, BS, gobbly gook and personal insults. Look up the definition of Charlatan.

lOL Enough fun here. Off to the beach....

I said liquid market. You know too that it takes volume to go beyond the bid-ask spread. And your logic doesn't make sense. I can't explain it in english but just google Aristotelian logic.

I don't see how the core of what Jacks says could be controversial. It's just price, volume and trend channels. Basic TA, studying price action. The rest of it I don't focus on right now and maybe I never will.
 
Mushroom, those "core" concepts are found much more clearly discussed and accompanied by real time real money trades on other threads on ET. The reason Jack gets so much flack is that he makes unsubstantiated claims, tries to mystify the simple, and complicates what a successful trader knows to be simple.

He has for years misguided new traders with claims of making 3X daily range, Never a losing trade, etc. This is wrong both morally and professionally in my opinion. I support those that call BS on him.

Keep your money in your pocket. Also, remember this is the wild west here on ET, and all kind of egomaniacs, nut jobs, liars, thieves, charlatans purvey their wares and maladies here to the never ending stream of lemmings seeking a quick $.

If you need guidance to find some of those threads PM me and I will offer what I can and I promise not to use the word Gaussian!!

LOL

:D
 
Quote from Mushroom:

I said liquid market. You know too that it takes volume to go beyond the bid-ask spread. And your logic doesn't make sense. I can't explain it in english but just google Aristotelian logic.

I don't see how the core of what Jacks says could be controversial. It's just price, volume and trend channels. Basic TA, studying price action. The rest of it I don't focus on right now and maybe I never will.

Well, actually it is only a MACD, Stoch, and smoothed SMA of a stoch, <b>and that is it.</b>
 
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