Questions for experienced ES daytraders?

profitlocker said:
IB Papertrader (simulated) does indeed use live data piggybacked off your real account. I know this because I use it to test run my algos before I take them live.

I can understand the OP skepticism, but the only way to validate real performance is through third party audit, which has been discussed here over and over again. Unless I'm attracting investors or selling a service, it's a nonsensical thing to do, just so I can flex my penis here.

I personally see no edge in day trading ES because of its symmetry. I offered my opinion here, and wish those who trade it the best of luck.
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Not the excuse I was expecting, and a slight change in approach. Let me ask a very simple question then. Why are you afraid to post just one trade details marked up on a chart?

  1. Are you afraid of looking foolish?
  2. Are you afraid of what others will think about you?
  3. Do you really think one trade details will give away a perceived edge?
  4. Do you really think your results are based on what you call your proprietary research?
You might well believe that you have something special, but the reality is that you more than likely have not one thing special, and are just trading using proper risk management and adequate cash. But, if you do not post any details about anything, then we can only assume you are just talking. At least I have posted details, whether you think it sim details or live is irrelevant, and as i said, just post something so that others can make a better judgement than just on words alone. I am not afraid of anyone asking me about my trades, as I know exactly why I entered and exited, and also knowing that once I enter or exit, that price can do anything.
 
wtfauoa said:
...At least I have posted details, whether you think it sim details or live is irrelevant, and as i said, just post something so that others can make a better judgement than just on words alone...
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She's breaking up cap'n!

Well, WTFA, if sim or live is irrelevant, than why do you keep banging on about everyone else posting live stuff?!?
 
wtfauoa said:
...I am looking for someone who has done it him/her self, and is now trading large size with ES, of say 10 contracts per trade. Contrary to what most think, trading 1-2 contracts is not the same as trading 10 contracts, just try it and see, but be very careful, as if you pick the wrong day to try it you could lose a nice bit of money if you are not paying attention.
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Well, that is a given. It's not the same in that it is five or ten times the market exposure over 1 contract. Thank you captain obvious?

At this point, I tend to wonder if you are just phishing or something. Something is awry in your circular discussions, about desperately needing just ONE single trader to show just ONE single live ES trade with a marked-up ES chart, as if that will show that it is proof they are the only people in the whole world who know how to trade anything, that you would open a dialog with them for daytrading ES, and NOBODY ELSE in the WHOLE UNIVERSE can talk to you about daytrading the ES, because many here in this thread are daytrading something other than the ES.

If they have not traded the ES future profitably, they cannot trade anything else in the whole universe of trading for profit. Nope. WTF is ES or bust. Nothing else exists to him but ES. If someone cannot trade the ES for profit, then to WTF, they cannot make money anywhere else. Not in the markets, not in life...Just nowhere.

ES is the lifegiver. It gives all and taketh all away.

Happy trails WTF. Hope you find the success you are looking for in the ES. I can't WAIT for the ES to get a comeuppance by the CME equity group. Because it is people like YOU that will make it happen.
 
wtfauoa said:
Not the excuse I was expecting, and a slight change in approach. Let me ask a very simple question then. Why are you afraid to post just one trade details marked up on a chart?
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Because I don't come here to mentor, or provide entertainment. I'm just an avid reader always thirsting for knowledge. The search feature here has a library of valuable information dating 15 years back. I suggest you use it. Many out-of-the-box views you will not find in books. I briefly post once in a while with the hopes of paying it forward to the ET community.
 
This really is so funny. Some can't even read, others will do anything but post one single live trade with chart marked up, as they know once they post they will look silly. There is nothing wrong with looking silly, once you accept the fact and speak the truth. I am still waiting for just one Elite Trader to turn up, which might happen, but the winning odds are not looking very good at the moment. In case you have not noticed, I do not need any information from the vault, as I know exactly how it works. Why do I look for one Elite Trader, well just read the posts and you will see, as I have mentioned it many times, along with the other things I have also mentioned many times. Sometimes you wonder if people can really be so stupid.
 
speedo said:
You are that special combination of ignorance and arrogance that makes ET such a unique place.
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I am not afraid to show my live trades and speak the truth about others. Why do so many people think that just because someone writes something that they are telling the truth. The only way to show that you know what you are speaking about in relation to trading, is to post details of a live trade marked up on a chart. Anything else is just a complete waste of peoples time. One can only assume if a person does not post the details when asked, then the person does not trade. We have already covered the edge crap, so no need to mention that rubbish again. If you really want to show me up, then post a live trade with chart marked up. What are you really afraid of. Looking stupid like @profitlocker ?
 
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