Because Jews are an easy race to hate, much of it their own doing. Not to say the Holocaust was right, it wasn't. It was wrong on a humanitarian level and a complete disaster as part of a military strategy.
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Question : Why did the Germans turn on the Jews ?
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Quote from FightTheFuture:
That's where the money was.
The German version of National Socialism was a system of plunder, punitive taxes, capitalist destruction and a generous welfare state where wealth was redistributed to only Aryans as war profiteers. Socialism always leads to genocide eventually.
Part of the propaganda was that Germany had the world's best social welfare and Jews were thought to be the incarnation of capitalism. They had no other use than to plunder their wealth and property in the same way the military plundered other countries.
The plundering of wealth and property resulting in death and destruction is the oldest profession.
I don't think Jews are pro- capitalism at all. One reason Nazis went after them was because they associated them with bolshevism. Correctly by the way.
Quote from Cesko:
I don't think Jews are pro- capitalism at all. One reason Nazis went after them was because they associated them with bolshevism. Correctly by the way.
Just one of the many excuses, propaganda, the Nazis used was to say that that all Jews were capitalists. It would only make sense that only some were capitalist, not all. Hate can make some believe that others are all this or all that.
I saw something on PBS about a year ago about Hitler being PO'd about receiving failing grades as an art student and some of his teachers were Jewish. The anger stayed with him as he plundered the world's best works of art.
An angry, failed art student. What a loser.
Cesko's the only good answer.
The primary fear in 1920's-1930's Germany was the rise of the Soviet Union and its expansionist threat to Europe.
Now, it's almost a Jewish tradition to advocate socialist-collectivist ideologies. In fact, in the US today, most jewish people vote Democrat. So it's not that difficult to imagine that in Germany almost all jewish people were communist sympathizers. In fact Karl Marx, Rosa Luxembourg and the leaders of communist revolts in Germany were almost all jewish.
Now, add 2 plus 2 and it's easy to see why the germans thought the jews were traitors colluded with the soviets to invade Germany.
Hitler's Mein Kampf makes this link explicit. Hitler's hated communism first and jewish people second for being communist.
I'm not saying all jewish people deserved what they got, because even if some german jews were traitors helping the russians to invade their own country, it's not the right thing to do to go and get their families too.
The primary fear in 1920's-1930's Germany was the rise of the Soviet Union and its expansionist threat to Europe.
Now, it's almost a Jewish tradition to advocate socialist-collectivist ideologies. In fact, in the US today, most jewish people vote Democrat. So it's not that difficult to imagine that in Germany almost all jewish people were communist sympathizers. In fact Karl Marx, Rosa Luxembourg and the leaders of communist revolts in Germany were almost all jewish.
Now, add 2 plus 2 and it's easy to see why the germans thought the jews were traitors colluded with the soviets to invade Germany.
Hitler's Mein Kampf makes this link explicit. Hitler's hated communism first and jewish people second for being communist.
I'm not saying all jewish people deserved what they got, because even if some german jews were traitors helping the russians to invade their own country, it's not the right thing to do to go and get their families too.
Hitler was an avid anticomunist and Jews were instrumental in communist movement in Russia and the rest of Europe . I would say 50% of bolshevik leaders and 80% of police leaders were Jews.
Hitler then view all German Jews as the agents of Russia .
The fact that they had all the money and screwed Germany after the 1st WW didn't help .
I would say that Jewish leaders and banking houses underestimated power of NSDP movement .
Hitler then view all German Jews as the agents of Russia .
The fact that they had all the money and screwed Germany after the 1st WW didn't help .
I would say that Jewish leaders and banking houses underestimated power of NSDP movement .
Quote from Mom0/pH0x:
you are on crack, jews invented capitalism as we know it... ever heard of ayn rand? milton friedman?
It seems to me you are on crack.
http://www.naszawitryna.pl/jedwabne_en_98.html
Yes Jews are capitalists too. Long time ago in Europe they were primary traders of human flesh. Supplying Slavic slaves to Otoman Empire. I've read the speculation stating that this might be the origin of hate of Jews in Europe.
The willingness of the German population to support and actively engage in eliminationist anti-semitism is a subject much too nuanced to be fully explored in a Forum post. However, for the sake of "nothing else to do", I'll list a few anti-semitic traditions that seemed to find confluence in Weimar Germany.
1. A Christian, both Roman Catholic and German Lutheranism, that viewed Judaism (belief system, not racial) as an inherent threat to Christianity. While not innocent of anti-semitism, the Catholic church, of which Hitler was a member, was much more tolerant and cosmoplotian than the virulently antisemitic slant of the Lutherans of the time.
2. A strong volkisch sensibility in Germany, that was more pronounced than that of other more diversified Central European states. In camparison to relatively "wordly" nations such as Italy, France, Spain, etc., the German population had a much stronger sense of race. Coupled with a realtively consistent view of Jews as outsiders, which is prevalent in countries of the most liberal leanings, e.g. the U.S., it is no suprise that Jews were ostracized and treated as interlopers.
3. The relative sucess of Jewish peoples in business and Finance coupled with the above are sure recipes for persecution. Also, the financial architects of Versailles, were also perceived as Jewish. This treaty was the personification of all National shame, misery and woe. The majority viewed the peace settlement as a yoke forced upon Germany by malevolent foreigners. Stripped of a workable military, by the drafters and signers of Ver., and left for dead economically, the time was ripe for insurection and revolution.
4. A repudiation of the attempted Red takeover in the turbulent post war era. Amovement that within Germany was largely supported and fomented by the University based intellectual class, a disproportionate number of whom were Jews.
Is there a lesson here? I am sure there is, but I am on my 6th redbull vodka, so maybe later.
FJMcC
1. A Christian, both Roman Catholic and German Lutheranism, that viewed Judaism (belief system, not racial) as an inherent threat to Christianity. While not innocent of anti-semitism, the Catholic church, of which Hitler was a member, was much more tolerant and cosmoplotian than the virulently antisemitic slant of the Lutherans of the time.
2. A strong volkisch sensibility in Germany, that was more pronounced than that of other more diversified Central European states. In camparison to relatively "wordly" nations such as Italy, France, Spain, etc., the German population had a much stronger sense of race. Coupled with a realtively consistent view of Jews as outsiders, which is prevalent in countries of the most liberal leanings, e.g. the U.S., it is no suprise that Jews were ostracized and treated as interlopers.
3. The relative sucess of Jewish peoples in business and Finance coupled with the above are sure recipes for persecution. Also, the financial architects of Versailles, were also perceived as Jewish. This treaty was the personification of all National shame, misery and woe. The majority viewed the peace settlement as a yoke forced upon Germany by malevolent foreigners. Stripped of a workable military, by the drafters and signers of Ver., and left for dead economically, the time was ripe for insurection and revolution.
4. A repudiation of the attempted Red takeover in the turbulent post war era. Amovement that within Germany was largely supported and fomented by the University based intellectual class, a disproportionate number of whom were Jews.
Is there a lesson here? I am sure there is, but I am on my 6th redbull vodka, so maybe later.
FJMcC