I don't think this has anything to do with a history lesson. Its as if to say that just because someone was a good person for 40 years, if they kill one little old granny here and there, its ok because for 40 years they were a good Samaritan. I can only call things how I see them based on what I know, and there is nothing wrong with expressing this. You have every right to say I'm wrong, and I have every right to say what I see based on how I see it.
This is what really gets me about the so called old timers here. You guys just bitch and bitch about how things used to be and how right you are and how much better it is elsewhere and how little trolls there are and how Baron isn't doing things right and .... the list goes on. Jesus... if I was as rich as you guys are via trading and if I was as upset with this place and with so many posters here and if I knew of another great forum where they all hang out anyway, why the fuck would I be here? I don't understand why any of you waste your time here.
You mention there are all these wonderful places that have answers to my questions, so many great forums and posters and yet, you don't mention any. Perhaps you feel as if you shouldn't because this is ET and hence a conflict of interest, which is commendable, but once again, this place is full of everyone with their "empty" help. Why not just post a link? You'd save yourself paragraphs, and you'd save me paragraphs. I'd love to see how people actually trade, I'd love to see live calls or charts, but I'm not just about to go to youtube where any old loser can put up a video. It actually makes a difference who you follow, so once again, perhaps a link would be nice. Telling me how little I know, and how much there is out there, without any specific details is actually not all that helpful.
Lastly, why do all of you experts get so mad? Seriously... why don't you guys just skip the posts you don't want to answer to? Its almost like you take pleasure in telling everyone how wrong they are, which is of course just your own opinion, but you guys seriously seem to want to argue with an idiot (even if its me), and convince them how much of an idiot they are, and if they don't see it, you want to continue to call them an idiot until they understand, because you so crave to have the last word and make them understand. I seriously do not understand how all you experts that are so good at trading and having zero emotions and not being tied to any trade or care about any outcome get so worked up over some piddly little forum that you think is the worst one out there.
The minute I become consistently profitable all I ever plan to do is show charts, maybe post videos of what I do, and let who ever wants to use it, use it. I would be too busy enjoying life to argue with those who want to argue, but I would at least post something that I would deem useful.
We've had so many discussion back and forth now, and zero of it has been about trading. I'm not sure who is the dumber person here to continue engaging this. Perhaps me since I should be doing the work necessary as opposed to wasting time on here where as you already seem to have it all figured out. But then once again, if I was in your position, I'm not sure why I wouldn't just answer the questions posed with direct answers as opposed to pages of thought arguments and history lessons. I don't think this is the place where its helpful to answer a question with another question.
Once again though wrbtrader, in some sick twisted way, I do still enjoy conversing with you. I just cannot back down from standing firm in this viewpoint as I have presented above.
You're still misinformed about ET history regardless if you care or not.
Facts...
Troll problem here at ET existed
before B1S2 became an issue
I announced I wouldn't start a thread here at ET
before B1S2 became an issue
Chit Chat and Politics & Religion were created to help ease the trolls pollution in other threads
before B1S2 became an issue
Chat room had an enormous troll problems
before B1S2 became an issue
You're labeling folks experts...the traders you're labeling do not call themselves experts
Other places have a troll problem too...as I've been very specific about such in this thread along with stating such via my moderation of those places, its a problem
everywhere (how could you have possibly missed that point...you doing that intentionally ?)
Many of ET best members in the past journals that use to post live trades here (two of which you've acknowledge in another thread)...they post
elsewhere
Folks are posting videos on Youtube of their trading...not here anymore unless I've missed something since January. Everyday I view a video posted by someone on Youtube...a few of which use to be ET members. It's there but you're too blind to look. Who cares why they post videos of live trading when they have free time and not trading. Does it hurt your feelings enough for you to label folks "experts". Therefore, when I start talking about psychology and you want to label me an "expert"...
do not. Thank you in advance for not doing such.
Review this thread carefully and determine who was the first one to mention B1S2...it was Dbphoenix. If you knew their history like me...the trolling begin via a
different issue and it had nothing to do with live trades or scribbles or any trade method
My point as a moderator elsewhere and member of social media (twitter, facebook, stocktwits and others)...trolling is a problem
everywhere. Its a growing problem on social media as stated
multiple times. I've never suggested ET has the only problem and that its not a problem anywhere else. In contrast, I've suggested one issue only and its personal as stated...I would never post a live trade here while others have no problems doing such here and not elsewhere. Simply, stop the fantasy that ET is the only place to post a live trade...seriously...get over it. In contrast, ET is my favorite place to read psychology discussions...something the other places lack. Therefore, as stated multiple times...when I start threads on psychology...it will be here but only IF I can prevent trolls from participating in my threads for the sole purpose of harassing another ET member via topics that has absolutely nothing to do with psychology.
Once again, having the ability to limit the trolling has been something I've waited for a
very long time because the island for Chit Chat and Politics & Religion and elimination of Chat wasn't enough. You wouldn't know that because you don't know the history of trolling at ET because you're still stuck on someone called B1S2.
...why the fuck would you care? Why would you even waste time replying to them? You make it seem like if you post a live call, someone takes something away from you...
I think you're confused or time for bed. I don't make live calls here and have never had an issue with anyone about such towards me. Therefore, there's never been any discussion by someone with me about making live calls here. In contrast, former ET members that use to post live calls here...obviously have an issue with ET considering they now do it elsewhere. I just happen to agree with them based upon ET history with trolling, personal attacks, harassment and other issues.
Who knows, if things go well with Baron's new implementation...maybe a few of them will return. Wouldn't you guys want the old ES Journal gang back ? Think about that carefully...seriously.
Simply, go talk to them about your concerns...not me.
Many have shared their views about how the trolling here is very much also initiated by Db, and i960 and justtrading have both presented their case rather well which I fully agree with. You seem so put off by the trolls like Db and 40D are, and this I just don't understand when to me, the best reaction is simply to not have a reaction at all. So because you agree with their view, and my view differs, its been nice to have a discuss about it with you. So in a way, aiming my post towards you makes perfect sense when you do in fact share their viewpoint as well, so we can completely take them out of it, and just argue about the effect of trolls on this board.