Was wondering what some of u were planning in terms of Quadriga contributions for the fall....I've been sitting out the summer but may start adding to my position this coming month.
Quote from qfinger2004:
Was wondering what some of u were planning in terms of Quadriga contributions for the fall....I've been sitting out the summer but may start adding to my position this coming month.
Quote from John Joseph:
Folks, before anyone starts singling out Aaron's drawdown and attempting to draw any conclusions from it, you should take a look at what's going on in the industry in general. Here are a few things to consider:
1. The S&P Managed Futures Index is currently in a drawdown in the neighborhood of 16%. Based on the information that I have seen, Schindler Trading's leverage, annualized volatility, and annual returns far exceeds the Index's leverage.
2. Many large and well-respected trading programs are currently having a very difficult go of it. For example, the JWH Original Investment Program (John Henry's fund) is in a 31% drawdown as of the end of June and is approaching its largest drawdown in its 20+ years of performance history (38.25% after accounting for JWH's 1995 25% decrease in leverage). June's return alone was -15.10%
3. The last 4-5 months are widely considered by those in the industry to be among the most difficult conditions for CTAs in recent memory.
Given the above, it is not reasonable to conclude that Schindler Trading's current drawdown, while certainly unpleasant for Aaron and his clients, is due to anything other than unusually unfavorable market conditions. I would expect that CTAs in general and Schindler Trading in particular will return to their usual levels of performance in short order.
jj
Quote from John Joseph:
Folks, before anyone starts singling out Aaron's drawdown and attempting to draw any conclusions from it, you should take a look at what's going on in the industry in general. Here are a few things to consider:
1. The S&P Managed Futures Index is currently in a drawdown in the neighborhood of 16%. Based on the information that I have seen, Schindler Trading's leverage, annualized volatility, and annual returns far exceeds the Index's leverage.
2. Many large and well-respected trading programs are currently having a very difficult go of it. For example, the JWH Original Investment Program (John Henry's fund) is in a 31% drawdown as of the end of June and is approaching its largest drawdown in its 20+ years of performance history (38.25% after accounting for JWH's 1995 25% decrease in leverage). June's return alone was -15.10%
3. The last 4-5 months are widely considered by those in the industry to be among the most difficult conditions for CTAs in recent memory.
Given the above, it is not reasonable to conclude that Schindler Trading's current drawdown, while certainly unpleasant for Aaron and his clients, is due to anything other than unusually unfavorable market conditions. I would expect that CTAs in general and Schindler Trading in particular will return to their usual levels of performance in short order.
jj
Quote from volga:
What I dont understand is, arent these supposed to be trend-following funds? all the markets are pretty much trending, and these guys are getting she-lacked. 31% drawdowns is redemptions time in my opinion..
That is not just true for Hedge Funds. Any business has the same "right."Quote from vhehn:
http://bear.cba.ufl.edu/karceski/FIN7447/WSJ Spring 2004/WSJ 071504.html
the dirty little secret of hedge funds. if they make money everything is fine but if they have heavy losses some will shutdown and start over under a new name so they get a fresh watermark and you are left holding the bag.