Quote from TraderZones:
WRONG. From collective2, you just enter the stupid trade as if giving to your broker. Collective2 tracks it. Same with Timertrac, and I am sure, some of the other tracker services.
For example: Buy 2 contracts, @ESM8, at market (lmit/stop/whatever). Also allows you to enter stoploss/profit target, time to enter trade, etc.
Discretionary has nothing to do with it. Or is it assuming that Puretick's trades are unable to be sent to a broker? Otherwise, they are easily trackable.
The reason they won't is, because it likely does not work!!!
I don't use collective2 but I do know a few here at ET that do use collective2.
They specifically stated that it's not suitable for
realtime monitoring of a discretionary trader.
Regardless, as I stated before, I'm under the impression that Alex is a discretionary trader (I could be wrong).
However, to add to that, if Alex is not a discretionary trader and is using some sort'uv coded or mechanical system...
He should use some sort'uv verification system but that may involve hiring someone to do the inputs for him considering it would be too difficult to alert their clients to trades and while trying to monitor if all the info is being accurately and timely inputed into collective2 or any other organization.
Yet, I cannot imagine a discretionary trader being able to do the same because it must be a tough multi-tasking to talk about the markets in realtime, alert clients in realtime, answer questions in realtime and
then try to
manually input trades for independent monitoring when any client member that's paying attention can do the same.
Thus, has any Puretick clients kepted an accurate log of the trades by Alex???
If so, wouldn't that be just as valid of a record compared to Alex inputing manually the same info into something like c2.
As I said before, I would be more interested in seeing the trading records (real money or simulator) of a few of their clients.
Yet, if their signal calls are that bad as some of you guys suggested...
Why do you care about the newbie trader over at Puretick considering these are the traders you want on the otherside of your own trades.
By the way, I prefer watching someone trade in person in front of my own two eyes if I have doubts about them being the real deal.
Yet, in all fairness, I should be able to do the same for that person if that person ask such while I'm there.
Quote from fluttrader:
I would like to see the first "teacher" having a profitable track record at C2
Why don't you be the first ? (Imagine the extra sales you would get with profitable track record
)
I don't work for Puretick nor do I have any affiliations with them nor do I promote any affiliations here at ET.
With that said, as noted from an earlier thread you participated in...
There are some ET members using C2 and a few of those ET members have tried to promote their service at ET or at other forums (e.g. rcanfiel).
My entire info about collective2 and others are via reading commentaries by these ET members.
Also, as noted earlier in this thread, some ET members have posted their actual brokerage statements, broker contact info for additional verification with account number (e.g. Tony Oz).
Extra sales did not go their way when in fact there was an increase in bashing and personal attacks.
There were a few others I won't bother mentioning because I think you got my point.
Last of all, you can go over to c2 and document how easy it is to input manually trades for realtime monitoring...
Then get back with me to tell me that its more suitable in comparison to having one of you guys sit in PureTick's room to document Alex calls.
I'm sure they can give one of you guys a free month pass as long as you accurately discuss the results of the trades...
You can even use a simulator assuming you think their signal calls are bad or not profitable.
P.S. I'm not a fan of signal calling rooms but I also see ways they can dramatically improve their services.
However, it's like talking to deaf ears simliar to trying to get Baron to get rid of sponsors and charge a small fee to ET members for the privilege of posting here.
Mark