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Gordon Gekko · Sep 26, 2003

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how many situps a day will give me 50 cent abs?

I read somewhere that Mike Tyson does like 1500 situps and pushups a day........

is that what it takes for rock solid abs?

you can have great abs without ever doing 1 sit up.

seeing your abs is about not having fat, not working the ab muscles.

ab exercises just work the muscle. if you want them bigger, then do exercises. but most people would look great if they just lost their fat.

OxonianTrader · Sep 26, 2003

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you can have great abs without ever doing 1 sit up.

seeing your abs is about not having fat, not working the ab muscles.

ab exercises just work the muscle. if you want them bigger, then do exercises. but most people would look great if they just lost their fat.

good point but I don't know if i exactly agree with that.....take a look at the starving people in africa.......I wouldn't call their abs to die for would you?

They have no fat in their stomachs and also no muscle.....looks pretty bad.......

Gordon Gekko · Sep 26, 2003

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good point but I don't know if i exactly agree with that.....take a look at the starving people in africa.......I wouldn't call their abs to die for would you?

that's because they're so lacking in correct diet, they have no muscle.

if you eat a good enough diet to maintain your muscle, but just lose the fat covering your ab muscles, you will look great without ever doing 1 sit up.

this is the truth. all these ab machine commercials on tv are extremely misleading.

OxonianTrader · Sep 26, 2003

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that's because they're so lacking in correct diet, they have no muscle.

if you eat a good enough diet to maintain your muscle, but just lose the fat covering your ab muscles, you will look great without ever doing 1 sit up.

this is the truth. all these ab machine commercials on tv are extremely misleading.

but let's not forget that you are a runner so you're working your ab muscles every day....it is true that if YOU lost all your fat you'd have some HOT abs........(assuming you have fat to lose...lol)

but i understand what you are saying......if you want great abs don't focus on working ab muscles but rather on losing fat from your stomach (i guess you can do that by running which works your ab muscles anyways).

thanks for the advice

Gordon Gekko · Sep 26, 2003

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but let's not forget that you are a runner so you're working your ab muscles every day....it is true that if YOU lost all your fat you'd have some HOT abs........(assuming you have fat to lose...lol)

true, running works the ab muscles somewhat, but its affect on size is minimal. i run all the time and my leg muscles aren't huge from running.

but i understand what you are saying......if you want great abs don't focus on working ab muscles but rather on losing fat from your stomach (i guess you can do that by running which works your ab muscles anyways).

thanks for the advice

yes, first i would say lower your body fat %. btw, you can't just lose fat from your stomach. it comes off all over gradually. and i can tell you, for men, the VERY LAST place it comes off is your lower abs. you can not lose fat from individual places without lowering your overall body fat %, short of liposuction.

after you lower your body fat % and can see your abs defined (you have to get REALLY low to see them all), if you want your ab muscles to look bigger, then do ab exercises. something like a crunch machine where you can progress higher with weight would work best. but don't forget, if you want to make muscles grow, you need to eat extra calories and the right amount of protein, too.

AAAintheBeltway · Sep 27, 2003

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I think more people would watch it if there was actual risk (i.e. if there was a risk of death).....actually, I think the whole world would watch it then....lol

it is unfortunate but probably true....

If I had to spend much time with some of those people there would be a risk of death.

Error 404 · Sep 27, 2003

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If I had to spend much time with some of those people there would be a risk of death.

More stuff we agree on completely!!!!

Peace,

RS

Gordon Gekko · Nov 27, 2003

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i buy a lot of protein powder since i lift weights and don't eat meat. 30-50% of my calories come from protein each day and it's expensive. i've been buying naturade protein powder because it doesn't have artificial flavoring crap in it.

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AAAintheBeltway · Nov 27, 2003

I read somewhere that most of those protein supplements were nothing but powdered milk.

Gordon Gekko · Nov 27, 2003

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I read somewhere that most of those protein supplements were nothing but powdered milk.

well, i wouldn't say it's impossible some reject company would do that, but it's definitely not the case for all.

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