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Public Says Investigate Terrorism, Even If It Intrudes on Privacy
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So, then why didn't Obama stop it, dumbass? Ground breaking didn't start until 2010.Quote from Ricter:
Obviously, given the scale of the NSA's data center, the project was launched long before Obama.
Instead he stops projects that would help America and Americans like the Keystone Pipeline.
You are really, really stupid, Rectum.
NSA: Senators Who Back NSA Spying Oppose Gun Background Checks For Infringing Rights
Posted: 06/12/2013 10:41 am EDT
"WASHINGTON -- Just months after many U.S. senators opposed tougher background checks for gun buyers on the grounds that they would tread on Americans' liberties, many of them are standing behind the far more intrusive intelligence-gathering programs of the National Security Agency.
Senators -- mainly Republicans -- argued... More...
Posted: 06/12/2013 10:41 am EDT
"WASHINGTON -- Just months after many U.S. senators opposed tougher background checks for gun buyers on the grounds that they would tread on Americans' liberties, many of them are standing behind the far more intrusive intelligence-gathering programs of the National Security Agency.
Senators -- mainly Republicans -- argued... More...
Quote from wjk:
http://www.people-press.org/2013/06...ne-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/
"Democrats now view the NSAâs phone surveillance as acceptable by 64% to 34%. In January 2006, by a similar margin (61% to 36%), Democrats said it was unacceptable for the NSA to scrutinize phone calls and emails of suspected terrorists."
Fuck you democrat hypocrites and fuck bipartisanship. Now you know why. And RINOs: You got that you stupid fucking RINOs? No? I didnât think so.
And the rest of you who support this level of spying on us; why don't you just put cameras up in your house for the NSA. Make it easy for them...no wait...the drones will be able to see in your house. Research the tech they use if you're too stupid to know how.
Easy to conclude that arguing politics is useless from this. The internet is loaded with people paid to keep conservatives in a perpetually pissed off state anyhow. I do face to face talking with some democrats, they are unusually closed off to facts or any arguments. They don't know what the Bill of Rights is and they don't care. They want to run things with an iron fist typically. Democrats have a lot more in common with Hitler's Fascists than they do with Republicans. A friend of mine got absolutely trampled by some bitch of a county bureaucrat, I observed her lying in court like it was nothing new. So I did a little checking and found that she's far left, similar to Obama..
Easy to conclude that arguing politics is useless from this. The internet is loaded with people paid to keep liberals in a perpetually pissed off state anyhow. I do face to face talking with some republicans, they are unusually closed off to facts or any arguments. They don't know what the Bill of Rights is and they don't care. They want to run things with an iron fist typically. Republicans have a lot more in common with Hitler's Fascists than they do with Democrats. A friend of mine got absolutely trampled by some bitch of a county bureaucrat, I observed her lying in court like it was nothing new. So I did a little checking and found that she's far right, similar to Tea Partiers.
Quote from PiggyBank:
yea i doubt that. His intent was to kill as many as possible and make everyone feel unsafe.
This NSA shit is simply wrong. The govt doesn't belong snooping through people's private conversations and I don't care what they say about just collecting 'meta data' they have access to every email, phone call, web search.. how is that not private and protected by the 4th Amendment? And what''s more, they say it works, but they couldn't catch that tsarnaev fuck, could they.. and he was singled out to them twice, and he had jihadi shit all over his youtube page. What's even worse is our govt/Pres can declare an American citizen an 'enemy combatant' and simply take away an AMERICAN CITIZENS RIGHTS.
Think about it: an individual makes anti establishment remarks, the NSA goes through his private information and finds enough out-of-context dirt on him to make him out to be a terrorist, govt declares him an enemy combatant and detains him/ships him off to gitmo without even a trial. Don't tell me it won't happen, cause no one knows, but it is obviously possible. And just like the IRS it will be abused. OUR govt was not designed to have this kind of authority over our lives, just the fact that it's possible is an abuse of power.
Thanks for being awake.
Think of another scenario. Citizen#A gains notoriety exposing Government corruption and rally's people behind individual liberty. NSA goes through Citizen#A's entire electronic life and digs up dirt, then threatens him to keep his mouth shut (blackmail) or risk "exposure".
That's how the NSA/Military-industrial-complex run the Congress, Senate and Executive now....through blackmail. This isn't theoretical. The NSA is doing this right now. It's a gigantic blackmailing operation.
Quote from Ricter:
Easy to conclude that arguing politics is useless from this. The internet is loaded with people paid to keep liberals in a perpetually pissed off state anyhow. I do face to face talking with some republicans, they are unusually closed off to facts or any arguments. They don't know what the Bill of Rights is and they don't care. They want to run things with an iron fist typically. Republicans have a lot more in common with Hitler's Fascists than they do with Democrats. A friend of mine got absolutely trampled by some bitch of a county bureaucrat, I observed her lying in court like it was nothing new. So I did a little checking and found that she's far right, similar to Tea Partiers.
Neocon Rinos and Democrats are nearly identical, in policy and perspective.
They don't give a shit about the Constitution or liberty, except when it can be used as a political football.
Save for national health care, Obama's policies are *identical* to Bush, except more extreme.
You guys are fascists.
Neocon Dinos and Republicans are nearly identical, in policy and...Quote from achilles28:
Neocon Rinos and Democrats are nearly identical, in policy and perspective.
They don't give a shit about the Constitution or liberty, except when it can be used as a political football.
Save for national health care, Obama's policies are *identical* to Bush, except more extreme.
You guys are fascists.
you know the rest.
Quote from Ricter:
Neocon Dinos and Republicans are nearly identical, in policy and...
you know the rest.
You forgot to lump Democrats in with that statement. Obama is Bush on steroids.
Now from Gallup:
More Americans disapprove (53%) than approve (37%) of the federal government agency program that as part of its efforts to investigate terrorism obtained records from U.S. telephone and Internet companies to "compile telephone call logs and Internet communications."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163043/americans-disapprove-government-surveillance-programs.aspx
Quote from Ricter:
No easy answer. Someone with a terror plan is going to be secretive about it, yet naturally we want to catch them before they do harm. So we have to dig. How much is too much? How big is the threat? I don't like this either, but it is apparent that terrorists are still making attempts.
I thought Obama had indicated we won the war on terror with the death of OBL. Go figure.
Hey, did anyone hear those comments Maxine Waters made regarding the big data base legacy he (Obama) was going to leave? Very interesting comment that has surfaced...
Link below. A must watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2TNrlIv2bY
âThe President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,â Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday. âThatâs going to be very, very powerful,â Waters said. âThat database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that itâs never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. Theyâre going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they canât get around it. And heâs [President Obama] been very smart. Itâs very powerful what heâs leaving in place.â