I disagree.---Accounts blow up due to mismanagement of risk--not due to picking entries. Traders who have blown up think their entries were good, but that they held too long or overleveraged. There is no edge in picking entries. All entry systems are known and folks don't have trouble recognizing and entering. What they do have trouble with is admission of being wrong and also with holding a trade for full benefit. Very few have these abilities. Those that do, have the edge.
Prudent Risk Management Is The Only True Edge In TRADING
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Let's consider that unlikeliness being the opposite, hypothetically, if that was to happen, then wouldn't this increase the ratio of winners? I sorta agree with your notion, but also agree with Pekelo. Saying that, if folks were to only buy (forget shorting) & not use leverage and position wisely and stick to the plan of action, I believe there would be a lot more winners in the market. But, if leverage was to remain in fashion, then I'd say Pekelo has got a very good point. You could kill an account with a thousand cuts.
Let's use backing horses at high odds as an example, you aren't that great in picking winners and just randomly back horses at 20/1, do you not think you'd eventually fail, even though your return is awesome and your stake is based on risking 0.5% of betting/trading capital?
There's no edge in entries because all entry systems are known? So, does that mean that money management systems are not known?
I'm not suggesting that entries are all there is to it by any stretch, but to conclude that money management is the only edge is silly. Because that would suggest that entries (and exits) have no value (since they hold no edge according to you). And if that is the case, then that means entries (and exits) could be randomly selected because the only thing that holds sway for you is the risk management component. Do you enter randomly? If not, then why not?
Bottom line: Both a coherent trading method and a sound and corresponding money management strategy are required.
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I've already tried to go down the "random entry" discussion in the past with him...he's was too vague/evasive.
Accounts blow up for dozens of reasons, not just one. Nobody is saying that risk management is not important, but you are basically saying that one could do random entries and managing it "prudently" and come out ahead.
I'll tell you what. I will post 10 trades here with a 1:1 stop loss-profit target ratio. If at the end of the 10 trades the system is positive, your thesis is dead.
I've been waiting over 50 pages for someone to ask this. Thank you. ----Yes all PRM strategies are known. The difference is that while folks are able to execute entries, the vast vast majority are unable to execute PRM. ----PRM execution is the edge
No---they only blow up due to mismanagement of risk. There is no other reason.---
Now you're talking about the psychology of trading more than anything else.