I answered your question from my perspective and left it on the board for about 35 minutes or so. Hope you saw it. I since deleted it as I didn't want to bore others.
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Prove to me that Technical Analysis Works.
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tbh, I have no idea what it would be for you. It's more a journey of discernment than a destination.
For me, it was to explore everything, some concepts superficially and others much more in depth. My understanding has both increased in breadth and depth but more importantly a recognition of so much that I don't know, of things that I thought I knew but really didn't fully understand as well as entire domain of knowledge I had no idea existed.
I've made all the rookie mistakes and some still creep into my trading. Some things that I thought was true turned out not to be and vise versa. I've been reckless and liquidated more times than I would want to admit. Impatient and forced trades, when a trade wasn't there. Held on to losers too long, cut winners too short, etc.
Just trust the questions that come up in your thinking, for the questions will guide you and your understanding of market dynamics. Be organized in one's learning.
As for candle sticks, I use bars mostly. They both parse the same information but one for me is more calming to observe and shows trending better. If I were to start again, I wouldn't sign up for any signal services or indicators, they stunted my learning of PA. However going into the math of indicators as well as logging them bar-by-bar supported my learning.
Market Structure and what defines swing highs/lows is a good place to start since it maps easier to FA. PA is fractal, so whatever one observes on one timeframe is applicable (within the appropriate context) to other timeframes.
There is no grail but what we create and fashion for ourselves, at least this is what is true for me.
That's interesting , because even if you delete it I get an alert that I had a reply. And if you really wanted to tell me something you could always use a private message.
So I am going to call bullshit on this one.
Quite a long message to not to say much. Specially when the question wasn't directed at you.
Just to tick one question that is crossing my mind. Are TA traders religious people as well? As in people that believe on esoteric myths and made up tales?
From the replies I am getting I sense a bit of "faith", faith that can't be proved but still is believed fiercely.
Do you have to be indoctrinated to believe? Therefore you don't need any proof?
From the replies I am getting I sense a bit of "faith", faith that can't be proved but still is believed fiercely.
Do you have to be indoctrinated to believe? Therefore you don't need any proof?
I believe all traders, and regular people, need some degree of faith and conviction in their decisions progressing, moving, onto the unknown future.
The bests people and innovators and adventurers all needed to have faith, and unknown proof heading into their direction.
People that need proof and tried and true and tested trials are just standard followers, with standard, average, performance.
Thank God, soundtrack from the movie Entrapment 1999
Seeing your trade unfold to your calculations and assumptions is a beautiful thing,
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That's a very romantic(as in romanticism) way of putting it. So you see yourselves as some kind of artistic entrepreneurs seeking for the holy grial. That makes sense to me.
I guess we can say to all scientists in the world that if they need proof to validate something they are following someone else. They are just followers! How disappointing. We should remove maths from schools and add more religious content then.
angrytrader, Picture 2 groups of traders: A and B.
Group A) of Artistic Intuitive traders of all stripes, TA, FA, Buy and Hopers, and other.
Another very much smaller Group B) made up of Rules Based traders
who apply solid stats supported answers to three little questions of the
Morse Code:
1)What triggers a buy or a sell to open?
2)What triggers an exit?
3)How do you size your trades?
With that perspective we can view a demographic survey conducted by Harvard Lampoon which reports that the Buy and Hopers and the Fundamental traders spend more time wishing and hoping and waiting and praying than the average human being.
The rest of the traders reflect no difference from the american population at large.
Interestingly, politicians and firmly entrenched bureaucrats were reported to exhibit high levels of satanists and pedos in the extreme. Interesting, that.
A tip of the hat to Robert Morse for his post.
https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/...solid-trading-plan.340340/page-4#post-5031706
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